EV Charger with Zigbee - will this work in HA?

Hey! Glad to see someone else is interested in this as well. It seems like a really promising charger to control locally. Have you gotten any additional responses regarding this? I have been looking for a charger that fits my requirements and this seems promising.

No, not yet. But I will report if I try one.

I am also interested in this topic, anyone tested it yet?
Deconz donĀ“t seem to support it yet what I can find.
Anyone tried the BLE connection from Hass?

I am also interested in this, but will not buy anything until it is supported.
Some alternatives I has found (will do more serching):

  • Amina S - Zigbee and Bluetooth LE, but canā€™t find any support
  • Futurehome Charge - Wi-Fi, Zigbee and Bluetooth, not sure if API is local, the Zigbee has no support yet as far as I see
  • Zaptec Go - Has an API, but I think it is cloud based, has OCPP (have not examined what the protocol involves)
  • OpenEVSE - Open hardware, open software, local API

Did you come anywhere with this? Iā€™m interested in an amina as well :slight_smile:

Hello!

I just installed zigbee2mqtt and the amina charger is automatically picked up by the zigbee network and the signal is good despite the charger being in the garage. I obviously canā€™t do anything with it yet.

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What do you mean with ā€œcanā€™t do anything with it yetā€?

I know almost nothing about how zigbee networks actually work, so good chance that I just misunderstood.
But from first post link to Amina documentation there is a lot of basic/standard ZB clusters, and a few Amina specific clusters.

Amina S Control (0xFEE7)
This cluster is an Amina specific cluster, and contains attributes not belonging naturally to any of the other clusters. It is used to control different aspects of the charger.

I hoped /expected that the Basic clusters would work out of the box?

Have you tried with ZHA?

It had probably not been added to z2m yet. I have not added anything myself, but it seems pretty straightforward, and there is plenty of supportive people to help in the github repo.
Info on how to add new configuration

Link to GitHub repo

With the help of the documentation @Psychochef found, you could create an issue in the github repo and ask for help, and Iā€™m sure someone with expert knowledge would be happy to help :slight_smile:

Cheers! Iā€™m new to home assistant, and zigbee, so i have allot to learn. My post was intended to sound optimistic, it looks like a device that can work well with home assistant, but iā€™m not knowledgeable enough to know at this time, so i provided some pictures. I have not tested with ZHA, because i need zigbee2mqtt for some other devices :slight_smile: I may check out new support adding later, right now i need to get all my other stuff to work, and get familiar with everything :smiley:

So if you @rapidradio canā€™t control the Amina charger with zigbee, how do you use your charger?

I have a charger on the way, hopefully I can test it during the weekend.
I hope ZHA can handle at least basic control of it, but the more I read my hope goes down. :sleepy:
Donā€™t think I can pull off to create a local quirk for ZHA on my own, and looking at their github it doesnā€™t seem that it happens so much with reporterd issues or new device requests.

Either way, I will report back when I got my hands on it.

https://github.com/somlioy/amina_s

Found some quirk for z2m, maybe can be converted to a local zha quirk :thinking:

I can report that Amina S is found by ZHA, but only the most basic function get entities.

  • Charging On/Off
  • Meters for Watt, Ampere, Voltage and Frequency.
    So it works as any relay with energy meters.

The other endpoints cluster is identified and i can see sensor and command thru ā€œmangage this zigbee deviceā€ but how to get thoose to entiteies?
The Amina S Control cluster doesnā€™t identify any clusters, as expected since it not by zigbee specification.

There is an open ticket for Device Support Request here on Github.
If anyone can contribute in anyway to get a quirk for this it would be awesome :slight_smile:

Cool! Are you using it to turn on/off, or hoe are you controlling it now? Because they donā€™t have their own app, right? You need enegic to control it?

As mention above it is not much of control yet, only

  • Charging On/Off
  • Meters for Watt, Ampere, Voltage and Frequency.

No app, cloud-stuff etc - only local management, as it should be.
Hope someone can fix full support or add a Zha quirk for this in future for even better management.

I have tested the Amina S charger with ZHA.

It will pair with ZHA and add some controls and sensors. But the most important ones are not added.
Using the ā€œManage deviceā€ functionality within ZHA I can access all the endpoints and commands from the documentation:

So I am able to stop start the charging, control charging speed (max Amps), set the charger to single phase or 3 phase and get all the electrical and consumption readings.

So creating a quirk for ZHA should be doable. I looked into this myself, but itā€™s a bit too much for me to dive in.

If thereā€™s anyone (preferably in he Netherlands) who wants to develop the integration? I can provide the device for that.

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Myself sadly can absolutly zero about quirkbuilding, but there is a ticket for product support as mentioned above. EV Charger with Zigbee - will this work in HA? - #17 by Psychochef
Please comment there so it is some life in the ticket or even better if you can add some more information about what is needed.

@ DennisEvers

Do I understand correctly that, from HA, you are able to activate/deactivate charging and to set/read charge current through Amina S? I would guess in that case that HA allows for doing so based on parameters (time, solar power, etc.), given that those are available.

Any info on what is lowest available charge current (eg. in case solar power is only 500W)?

Hi all,
Any advancement on the support of this charger ? I am thinking of buying one, and would love to integrate it into HA, I see in their website that it is compatible with homey, could we use homey integration to add to HA ? or does Z2M now support this charger ?