Google-Nest Offical Device Access Console Finally Released!

[olbas]

If I change the target temp in Home Assistant, it updates instantly on the Nest; But not the other way round: changing the target temp on the Nest is not reflected in the card in Home Assistant. I’m not sure about the actual temperature- that takes a little longer to change in real life, so I’ll need to wait for real differential, but it looks like the reported Home Assistant temperature lags the Nest.

[dbrunt (Daniel)]

Yay!

Only 15 hours? I think I spent double or even triple that to get it working!!
I started on Sep 22nd…

Works with Nest program going away Aug 31, 2019

I just received an email from Google… Subject: Google Nest Device Access Console now available ‌ [\ 93x32] Last year, we announced that we’re moving from the Works with Nest program to the Google Nest Device Access program. Today, we’re excited to announce the Device Access Console is available. Device Access allows qualified partners and individuals to securely access and control Nest products with their apps and solutions. Commercial developers can learn more by visiting the Device Acces…

[dbrunt (Daniel)]

I know I started my posts obliterating what I thought was sensitive info but now in hindsight I think the only potentially sensitive info is the OAuth 2.0 secret. Considering all of the hoops and hurdles we have to navigate (and all of the failures!), I fail to see how a hacker armed with all of the info could make use of any of it without knowing your google account credentials, which is why I did not conceal any of my info in my last post except for the oauth secret.

[dbrunt (Daniel)]

Is your HA running on port 80 then?

[ronniebee]

no 8123, I can acces my system via https://xxxxx.duckdns.org ( without a port number). Tested it via my iphone with wifi turned off

[allenporter]

Double check the subscriber id matches the subscription name.

[dbrunt (Daniel)]

https://console.cloud.google.com/cloudpubsub/topic/list?
Pub/Sub
Subscriptions
Subscription name

nest_subscriber_id: projects/home-assistant-295423/subscriptions/nest

[olbas]

Yes, the subscriber_id in HA matches the Subscription name in Google. But the card in HA does not update when real life changes are made to the Nest (though when it first starts it gets both temperature and target temperature properly).

Is there some debugging I can do directly on the subscription to see if that is updating on the Google side? Or link something else to that?

Also, more generally, it would be very helpful to understand how these things update. When I make a change to the secrets.yaml, do I need to restart Home assistant? Do I also need to reload the integration?
And on the Google side, if I change the subscription, or the callback url. do I need to re-start the whole project?

[olbas]

I think the subscription is updating in response to changes in the thermostat. I made several changes in target temperature, and can see a spike in the graph, of the Unacked message count. But that is not reflected in Home Assistant.

[ronniebee]

Yes, its working but is is not refreshing every x seconds or minutes. I have read thats is normal…

[olbas]

I hope that’s not normal. Every other sensor in HA updates within seconds.

[ronniebee]

You are right but what is the solution ( and yes I have the correct subscription id ) ?

[allenporter]

It updates nearly instantly using the event subscriber, and if that isn’t happening it is a subscriber problem. Check out the trouble shooting instructions for subscribers here https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/nest/#troubleshooting

[ronniebee]

This is my report ( it repeats)

2020-11-28 19:26:16 DEBUG (Thread-Heartbeater) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.heartbeater] Sent heartbeat.
2020-11-28 19:26:17 DEBUG (Thread-LeaseMaintainer) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.leaser] The current deadline value is 10 seconds.
2020-11-28 19:26:17 DEBUG (Thread-LeaseMaintainer) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.leaser] Snoozing lease management for 6.951604 seconds.
2020-11-28 19:26:24 DEBUG (Thread-LeaseMaintainer) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.leaser] The current deadline value is 10 seconds.
2020-11-28 19:26:24 DEBUG (Thread-LeaseMaintainer) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.leaser] Snoozing lease management for 5.749934 seconds.
2020-11-28 19:26:30 DEBUG (Thread-LeaseMaintainer) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.leaser] The current deadline value is 10 seconds.
2020-11-28 19:26:30 DEBUG (Thread-LeaseMaintainer) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.leaser] Snoozing lease management for 4.825307 seconds.
2020-11-28 19:26:35 DEBUG (Thread-LeaseMaintainer) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.leaser] The current deadline value is 10 seconds.
2020-11-28 19:26:35 DEBUG (Thread-LeaseMaintainer) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.leaser] Snoozing lease management for 4.379044 seconds.
2020-11-28 19:26:39 DEBUG (Thread-LeaseMaintainer) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.leaser] The current deadline value is 10 seconds.
2020-11-28 19:26:39 DEBUG (Thread-LeaseMaintainer) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.leaser] Snoozing lease management for 1.711310 seconds.
2020-11-28 19:26:41 DEBUG (Thread-LeaseMaintainer) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.leaser] The current deadline value is 10 seconds.
2020-11-28 19:26:41 DEBUG (Thread-LeaseMaintainer) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.leaser] Snoozing lease management for 3.528541 seconds.
2020-11-28 19:26:44 DEBUG (Thread-LeaseMaintainer) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.leaser] The current deadline value is 10 seconds.
2020-11-28 19:26:44 DEBUG (Thread-LeaseMaintainer) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.leaser] Snoozing lease management for 3.465193 seconds.
2020-11-28 19:26:46 DEBUG (Thread-Heartbeater) [google.cloud.pubsub_v1.subscriber._protocol.heartbeater] Sent heartbeat.

my last update was 24 min ago and it refreshed just after the screenshot

Who can share their graphs with me? I looks like I only get updates when humidtiy is + or - 2% and temperature is + or =- 0,5 degree (would explain the sharp decline and rise in my graphs). But is this a normal behavior of this integration? Who can tell me?

I check my subscriber id @allenporter and that meets the demanded requirements.

[Herian]

There isn’t a way to use the “time to warm” (do not know how it’s called in english, but is the thing that knows the time to warm up your house when you schedule a temp) function available on the nest in home assistant? Or there is a way to update the schedule via home assistant?

[olbas]

My updates are much less frequent than that. I only get a temperature change if I reload the integration.

[dbrunt (Daniel)]

@Herian

There isn’t a way to use the “time to warm” (do not know how it’s called in english, but is the thing that knows the time to warm up your house when you schedule a temp) function available on the nest in home assistant? Or there is a way to update the schedule via home assistant?

I don’t think those items are published in the API.
For scheduling, just use scheduler in HA…

Scheduler card/custom component

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GitHub - nielsfaber/scheduler-card: HA Lovelace card for control of scheduler...

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[dbrunt (Daniel)]

@olbas

Thank you so much. I must have started from scratch six times, and this worked straightaway. Can this be included in the instructions ?

Were you referring to my post?

[dbrunt (Daniel)]

@olbas

My updates are much less frequent than that. I only get a temperature change if I reload the integration.

That’s not normal. The updates happen within seconds, sometimes even before I can switch from Nest app to the HA app on my phone. See Allen’s post…

[ronniebee]

@dbrunt, Hi Daniel, I’ve posted my debug report. I don’t know how to interpreted it. Are these normal values? How does your graph looks like?

Btw, when I change my temp (phone via Nest app or the Nest) then the value in HA changes within seconds. Also when I change it via HA same result, my nest responds within seconds. The only thing is the refresh rate in my graphs…

Keep up the good work guys, although not easy to set up ( especially the port numbers caused a lot rework on my side) this is a better (futureproof) solution then Badnest which worked like a charm…