Grouping Automations on frontend for organization

“half a loaf is better than no bread”

“not in programming.”

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That is so not true.

I’m a computer scientist since 1999 and we are delivering partially working solutions all the time. The customer is already having some of his/her problem solved instead of waiting for the final product.

That is even the way to go for a long time, not doing the “Vee model” development but instead small iterations to improve the product. Exactly like HA is doing, adding and adding at every release.

But I agree with Taras, since 2018, I’ve (almost) never seen any feature from this forum being picked up because of votes, it is only a matter of catching attention and the good willing of Nabu guys and/or someone that feels entitled to pick it up and dev it himself in a pull request.

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And you’ve summed it up there @Olivier1974 with: “never seen any feature from this forum being picked up because of votes”

Me neither… which throws into question: WTH was the point of WTH? (see what I did there?)

They’re too busy picking up phones and talking to their lights rather than providing real world [wanted] functionality.

There’s probably a bit of “my project, my way” going on behind the scenes here, but I would suggest that any project that intends to be financially supported by users [Nabu Casa Subscription] should seriously consider prioritizing requests from the user base. After all, it’s THAT user base who is funding you and is keeping said project afloat. I mean, if everyone [or the vast majority] just stopped their Nabu Casa subscriptions right now where would that leave the project? Just a philosophical question.

FWIW HA won’t remain one of the most committed to on github and in the top few if they carry on just beautifying icons and steering away from [ignoring] actual solutions to users’ real world problems.

That’s not accurate though, there were many medium to large WTH items that did get picked up and implemented. Just because it’s not what you were interested in doesn’t mean it didn’t happen and wasn’t important.

Can check the top items and see many have a solution and were implemented Month of "What the heck?!" - Home Assistant Community

There are lots. Look at the closed topics that were not duplicates. It is not only the paid Nabu-Casa people that work these problems. Members of the community that are able to write code look thru here all the time looking for stuff to help with. The more votes, the more likely it will be done. This one I know was picked out of here…
OR + AND conditions for Conditional Card - #78 by Michel.
for instance.
The person that does the code can’t close these posts themselves, the forum mods have to notice that a particular item has been completed and they can close the topic.

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Ammm… a small correction: it’s not “because YOU were interested”, but, currently: “because 2029 people are interested”. Somewhat difference, don’t you think? And it’s …what…2+ years since this request was started? You can’t say that it’s not an ignorance…

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You are taking my comment out of context.

The user was making an absolute statement that the WTH items were ignored when many WTH items were, in fact, not ignored and have been implemented.

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With the greatest respect to all. I am sure that we have the attention of the Nabu developers and they will decide whatever they will decide. In the meantime this exchange has lost usefulness.

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I am interested as well.
Just folders inside automations would help a LOT

For now, moving things to Node-Red and grouping in on pages seems to be the best option.

FYI Paulus (Balloob) mentioned in the release thread for 2024.1 that they are aware of this feature request. They are looking into the current options and weighing out the pro’s and con’s. All the current methods they’ve discussed don’t check all the boxes and they want to vet out all possibilities before building something in. The team is hopeful that something may be added this year to address this FR. It’s not guaranteed that this FR will be added this year but he seemed very hopeful.

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It wasn’t in the thread, it was at the release party: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRwzSkKYIDs&t=2280s

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yes please.

This has been asked before, but good lord–this should not be that difficult. Can we please be able to put our hundreds of UI automations into FOLDERS? Or at LEAST be able to sort them by: enabled/disabled, date since last updated etc.??

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The Nabu team said that they are working on it, ETA this year.
Listen to the time marked video posted by Florian in post #302
This topic is closed.

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I should hope they’re aware by now as the OP was from 2019 :sweat_smile:

Very much looking forward to this when it arrives; thanks in advance!

It’s been known for many years and actively worked on throughout that duration. I’ve stated this multiple times in this thread but no one reads my responses. They just come in here to say +1 or complain. It would be great if people would just vote, read the marked solution, and move on without drama.

It was your response that brought me here. No drama intended.

It was a general statement, not directed at you

Well, it’s hard to say that it’s been “actively” working… more like “passively”… in 4 years almost half of HA could be made, not just one automations list upgrade… let’s say that all these years it was way down on the priority list…
But, hey, it’s finally confirmed that it will be done, so congrats and thanks for that. Looking forward to it…

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Having rudly had my post removed due to “duplicate” I came looking for the duplicate to find this 4 year old thread showing that even now the feature is still wanted and not being addressed. In the space of 4 years a simple sub-folder system could have been implimented, im not sure what they are avoiding this for but i feel like its being actively shut down.