Hildebrandglow - Smart Meters - SMETS2

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I was using this happily for a while but just noticed that over the past week or so it’s been going crazy.

App shows the correct data (at least for the previous day - I notice that it doesn’t seem to track the current day properly)… perhaps this is the root of the issue if the integration is trying to pull current data?

Same here. It worked well for a while after the rewrite but not now.

Same here. My Bright app shows data on a major delay (it’s currently showing no data for the last 20 hours). Home Assistant data is even worse.

This is not only a flaw in the Bright data, but a flaw in HA. The inability to accept historic data imposes severe limitations for situations like this. If the Bright integration could say “I’ve just received these 48 data points for the last 24 30 minute intervals” then it wouldn’t matter.

I discovered there was an Octopus integration (I am an Octopus customer) so I tried installing that yesterday (21st Feb). I got a gas consumption reading which closely matches the Chameleon reader value for the 20th Feb, which I assume is because of the historic data issue, but nothing for electricity. Today, the Octopus integration is not reporting anything for yesterday’s gas or electricity. Hildenbrand continues to report nothing for gas and only 0.5 kWh electricity for yesterday.

Just an update to report that after a couple of days I can see the Octopus integration is now working well and returning the correct gas and electricity total daily consumption values. The only problem with the default energy dashboard is that the values are plotted a day in arrears due to the historic data issue, but this could be fixed by using a custom chart using the sensor history. I’ve given up on the Hildebrand HA integration; it just seems to be completely broken at the moment.

I was interested in using this integration.
I have a SMETS2 meter.

Installed the Bright app on a tablet on Sunday. (19-2-23).
I installed the Hildebrand Glow integration after reading and following the earlier posts in this thread.

By Tuesday, there was some data in the Bright app relating to Monday.
The data during Tuesday seemed like initial values and remained static.
Now its Thursday, I can tell the app figures are correct for gas and electric up to the previous day.
So Mon to Wed are ok.

The HA integration usage figures show 0.11kWhr for electric and not available for gas.
Unit costs are not correct.

I’ve uninstalled and re-installed the integration.
It shows 2 devices and 6 entities.
When I first installed it, I’m sure it asked for an email and password, assumed to be the same as for the Bright app. It didn’t do that on the re-installation.

I’m new to this but it seems broken to me.
I’ll keep and eye on this thread.

Update.

I seem to have logged some data over the past few days in HA.

Although,

  1. It doesn’t tie up with my SMETS meter readings and
  2. What the heck is going on with the cost yesterday, the 7th March?

I have a SMETS 2 meter and have HA / MQTT setup with the glow LCD

Data is reading fine and i can see the sensors i created in MQTT.yaml

im racking my brain how can i make a sensor that shows me the monthly cost

I’m surprised there is no enity already for this as its on the LCD!?!

I might have missed something but I already have that figure in my energy page on HA. I am using following

Hildebrand Glow IHD MQTT

Listening to the MQTT messages ( “glow/[redacted]/SENSOR/electricitymeter”), I don’t see any of these cumulative cost figures, only the unit rate and standing charge for costs. Though as you say there is an option to display in money on the device itself, so perhaps you could try asking Hildebrand/Glow support if they could add these values to the MQTT messages?

The structure of the MQTT message is shown at the end of the official post here:

(It mentions at the end there may be suggestions from the community on new things to add.)

was that repsonce for me ? if so can you expand?

i have emailed them they said check the API

not much luck!

I have monthly data available from my MQTT readings on the Glow IHD.
The firmware is on V1.9.0.

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Interesting, thanks; I’m still on “App firmware 1.8.12” as I don’t have my Glow IHD connected to the internet - I’ll try updating to see if it starts to include the monthly/cumulative data on the MQTT messages.

Updated to latest firmware “App firmware 1.9.1” but my MQTT messages still don’t contain the cumulative data for cost (£), only for usage (kWh); for example (data values redacted, but shows the structure/fields available):

Message 1 received on glow/[redacted]/SENSOR/electricitymeter at 7:48 AM:

{
    "electricitymeter": {
        "timestamp": "2023-04-21T06:48:09Z",
        "energy": {
            "export": {
                "cumulative": 0,
                "units": "kWh"
            },
            "import": {
                "cumulative": #,
                "day": #,
                "week": #,
                "month": #,
                "units": "kWh",
                "mpan": "[redacted]",
                "supplier": "[redacted]",
                "price": {
                    "unitrate": #,
                    "standingcharge": #
                }
            }
        },
        "power": {
            "value": #,
            "units": "kW"
        }
    }
}

QoS: 0 - Retain: false

Did they provide a link to the API?

This is mine …

Thanks; it looks the same - it provides the day/week/month figures in usage (kWh), but not in money/cost (£).

The MQTT data is just the live data from the meter showing usage, and the unit rates. The cost is never shown on the meter as the app or your provider use the usage data and the unit rates to work out your energy costs.

I use NodeRed to use the usage data and unit cost data to give me the total cost of usage.