How did you install Home Assistant?

Looks like you’re not running 0.110.x

It was not censoring it was inappropriate and violating our code of conduct, he made a statement about me personally and used unneeded emphasizing and capitalization.

The response done was not needed. I am happy to explain the reasoning behind this, and am happy to hear anyone’s opinion and even share my personal opinion.

I’d be interested in your personal opinion.
I also disagree with your posts about @flamingm0e I don’t understand that censorship.
(Maybe English not being your first language is to blame? I dunno some things don’t translate well )

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There was literally nothing in any of my posts calling you out directly. This is ridiculous. There was nothing that was about you personally.

This is on another level now.

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Actually I’m pretty fluent, thanks. Reasoning has been given above.

Well, I took a couple of months off because of the same crap I see here. I tried to come back. I’m out now. I won’t bother helping anyone any more if this is the treatment one can expect.

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Personally, I did not care for the name change but now, months later, I’m fully onboard with the expanded meaning of Home Assistant.

However, the community has not embraced the new name. A quick search of recent posts shows that many people still use the term hassio despite its deprecation many months ago. Whether it’s due to the pronderance of existing material using the old name (here in the forum and throughout the web) or because old habits die hard, the old name not just survives, it thrives.

Any branding campaign needs to consider this ‘field data’ when measuring the strategy’s degree of success. As it stands, y’all need to double-down or cut your losses (because this new name has only taken hold in documentation but not in people’s hearts and minds).

Hmm yeah, I would say that the documentation hadn’t embraced it either. Some main parts are done, but it hasn’t been fully revisited, not does it explain it anywhere.

For example, the glossary has been updated just about a week ago-ish.

I have asked you before in the discord channel if the documentation could start adding revisions to the documents. This way users can understand if the document is still valid. You had said (if I remember correctly) that it took to much time. Due to the fast changing environment we are now in, can you reconsider your decision?

Please help me remember with your goal on revisions, do you mean versioning?

Normally companies have document control via revisions and dates. Sometimes Home Assistant has changed and the document is no longer valid as it has not been modified to the new revision of Home Assistant. When a user needs to understand a new change or a new add-on to their system they open the documentation. The user has no way of knowing if the document is still valid. I had said that it would be nice to reference the version of home Assistant when the document is released

I mean you can look at the github version of the page (it is always linked) and see when it was last updated. And you can see the complete history of the doc. However a simple “last updated on 12 April 2020” directly on the page would be useful.

Someone should close this thread as it’s utility is now significantly reduced by this Installation Methods & Community Guides Wiki

Great! Then since you seem to acknowledge that there is some room for improvement then it sounds like this is the perfect time to fix it before things go on too far.

But also, since you’ve offered, what is your opinion?

Precisely…and the direction has become 100% non-negotiable with the user-base IMHO.

Then again I have been known to be naive at times? It seems like a lot of others here may share my naivety and as a result we have beefed up our forum policy and started to censor any views that are not shared by the few!

We have git for versioning. Other than that, it rather put time into improve the current state of the docs. :slight_smile:

I fail to see how having a revision number and date adds much time? It is just a discipline that most commercial companies mandate. In any case I do appreciate the great work by you and the team.

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Maybe you could see @flamingm0e first answer as a personal attack due to “discussions with you being fruitless” , but the capitalization was in no way a personal attack. And I can’t see why the second response, (which got unflagged now) would have been a personal attack in any way.

But thanks for opening my eyes, I’ll now also stop posting here, I don’t want to be in a community where people get treated like this. I know you couldn’t care less, but the other 100’s of people I helped here in the community may care…

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It maybe linked but I believe that a released document must have this information. It is called quality control. No company I every worked at allowed anything less. In any case it looks like it is a dead issue.

I agreed with you that it would be helpful to have a date or revision number in the docs.