How to automate based on weather temperature forcast for current day?

No they don’t, but I use sensors to pull that information from here:

I created a day min and max sensor with OWM like this (details in the thread mentioned above):

# Day min and max temp
- platform: template
  sensors:
    day_max_temp:
      friendly_name: "24 Std. Höchsttemperatur"
      unit_of_measurement: "°C"
      entity_id: weather.openweathermap
      value_template: >
        {#% set start = (now().replace(hour=0,minute=0,second=0).timestamp() * 1000) | int %#}
        {% set start = (now().timestamp() * 1000) | int %}
        {% set end = start + 86400000 %}
        {{ state_attr('weather.openweathermap', 'forecast') | selectattr('datetime', '>=', start) | selectattr('datetime','<=', end) | map(attribute='temperature') | list | max }}

    day_min_temp:
      friendly_name: "24 Std. Tiefsttemperatur"
      unit_of_measurement: "°C"
      entity_id: weather.openweathermap
      value_template: >
        {#% set start = (now().replace(hour=0,minute=0,second=0).timestamp() * 1000) | int %#}
        {% set start = (now().timestamp() * 1000) | int %}
        {% set end = start + 86400000 %}
        {{ state_attr('weather.openweathermap', 'forecast') | selectattr('datetime', '>=', start) | selectattr('datetime','<=', end) | map(attribute='temperature') | list | min }}

Then you can use an automation like this:

- alias: 'Sun protection on sunny days'
  trigger:
    - platform: time
      at: '09:00:00'
  condition:
    condition: and
    conditions:
      - condition: numeric_state
        entity_id: sensor.day_max_temp
        above: 20.0
      - condition: numeric_state
        entity_id: sensor.owm_cloud_coverage
        below: 50
  action:
    - service: notify.telegram
      data:
        message: "Sonnenschutz \U0001F525"
    - service: script.alle_halb_geschlossen

Enjoy!

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Which mode did you chose? Did you stick to the default hourly?

Just for reference: I’m not satisfied with the default OWM implementation in HA. Especially as owm provides a daily report that directly gives out the min/max temperatures for a day. So no need for calculations.

I set up my own sensors using a rest_template as follows:

  - name: owm_report
    platform: rest
    resource: 'https://api.openweathermap.org/data/2.5/onecall?units=metric&exclude=minutely,hourly&lat=<lat>&lon=<lon>&appid=<apikey>'
    scan_interval: 600
    value_template: '{{ value_json.current.temp }}'
    unit_of_measurement: '°C'
    json_attributes_path: "$.daily[0]"
    json_attributes:
      - temp
      - clouds
  - platform: template
    sensors: 
      weather_today_max_temp:
        friendly_name: 'Today Max Temp'
        device_class: temperature
        unit_of_measurement: '°C'
        value_template: '{{ state_attr("sensor.owm_report", "temp")["max"] }}'
      weather_today_min_temp:
        friendly_name: 'Today Min Temp'
        device_class: temperature
        unit_of_measurement: '°C'
        value_template: '{{ state_attr("sensor.owm_report", "temp")["min"] }}'
      weather_today_clouds:
        friendly_name: 'Today Cloudiness'
        unit_of_measurement: '%'
        value_template: '{{ state_attr("sensor.owm_report", "clouds") }}'
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Much better! Thx a lot!

Maybe it would make sense to ask the maintainer of the OWM platform to include this within the official platform? :thinking:

PS: The OWM One Call API is being implemented (Convert OpenweatherMap Integration to use "one-call-api"). So just be patient… :slightly_smiling_face:

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I like your solution, but I am a bit confused since temp and temp_min/temp_max are always the same in my installation. Now I found this in the OWM API docs:

Please, do not confuse min/max parameters in our weather APIs.
In Current weather API , Hourly forecast API and 5 day / 3 hour forecast API - temp_min and temp_max are optional parameters mean min / max temperature in the city at the current moment just for your reference. For large cities and megalopolises geographically expanded it might be applicable. In most cases both temp_min and temp_max parameters have the same volume as ‘temp’. Please, use temp_min and temp_max parameters in current weather API optionally.

At least for the free subscription plan this might not be what you want?!

PS: Sorry, my mistake. You are using the new One Call API which indeed does provide day min/max temp (daily.temp.min).

Thanks for your feedback.
So we can hope to switch back to the owm plugin in some weeks?

Hi, many thanks for the code. It´s generally working. Now I have two requests.

  1. How can I round the decimal of the temp, i.e. 26.45 to 26.5
  2. I tried to modify the api code for using the !secrets=myapikey or !secrets:myapikey implementation without success. How is this possible, is there a solution available?
https://api.openweathermap.org/data/2.5/onecall?units=metric&exclude=minutely,hourly&lat=<lat>&lon=<lon>&appid=!secrets=myapikey

I did not move the apikey/appid to secrets. Because, if anybody would get knowledge of it, I don’t care. It’s a free service with no personal information.

If you want it in secrets, you have to move the full url to secrets, and then use resource: !secret openweatherurl

Like this solution. Basic question, the I assume need to be replaced by actual values or are these subsituted by HA? If so: where does the apikey come from?

This works great! Thanks.

Please forgive my question I am a HA beginner, but how do I integrate your template?
First part in the configuration.yaml and the second as manual automation? :face_with_thermometer:

Hi

IMHO you don’t need the template anymore since the OWM integration uses OWM one call API to provide forecast information directly:

https://openweathermap.org/api/one-call-api

Therefore, you can just write something like this in your automations:

conditions:
  - condition: numeric_state
    entity_id: sensor.openweathermap_forecast_temperature
    above: 20.0

The only thing that may be missing is a cloud coverage forecast. But there is a current cloud coverage sensor (sensor.openweathermap_cloud_coverage).

HTH

Thorsten

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If it helps, here’s how I did it:
First, I have a sensor collecting forecasted temperature 1 day from now:

# Buienradar weather data
# https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/sensor.buienradar/
- platform: buienradar
  monitored_conditions:
    - temperature_1d

From what I saw, this sensor switches max forecasted temperature around 2am at night.
So I implemented a SQL sensor that queries the max forecasted temperature between current time yesterday and last midnight
(I record my data in a local MariaDB)

# Determine max forecasted temperature for 'today'
- platform: sql
  db_url: !secret mariadb_url
  queries:
    - name: max_temp_fcst_today
      query: >
        SELECT date(date_add(last_updated, INTERVAL 1 DAY)) AS date, MAX(state) AS max_temp
        FROM home_assistant.states
        WHERE entity_id = 'sensor.br_temperature_1d'
        AND last_updated BETWEEN DATE_ADD(NOW(), INTERVAL -1 DAY) AND CURDATE();
      column: max_temp
      unit_of_measurement: °C

In other words: I went back into my history to retrieve the forecasted temperature, rather than trying to collect a forecasted temperature for today when I need it.

Another approach if you’re not comfortable with writing SQL statements would be to use an automation that writes the state or attribute of a (sensor) entity into an input_number entity at a given point of time. You can then use this over a certain interval while the source changes.

I have a similar problem as others. I would like to use our local weather forecast from switzerland (HACS, Meteoswiss integration).
Using the template editor in development tools with the template {{ states.weather.basel_binningen }}, I get the following response:

<template TemplateState(<state weather.basel_binningen=lightning; temperature=27.3, humidity=51, pressure=973.0, wind_bearing=E, wind_speed=9.7, attribution=Weather forecast from MeteoSwiss (https://www.meteoswiss.admin.ch/), forecast=[{'datetime': '2021-06-21', 'templow': 17.0, 'temperature': 26.0, 'condition': 'lightning-rainy'}, {'datetime': '2021-06-22', 'templow': 16.0, 'temperature': 23.0, 'condition': 'lightning'}, {'datetime': '2021-06-23', 'templow': 15.0, 'temperature': 24.0, 'condition': 'lightning-rainy'}, {'datetime': '2021-06-24', 'templow': 15.0, 'temperature': 22.0, 'condition': 'cloudy'}, {'datetime': '2021-06-25', 'templow': 14.0, 'temperature': 22.0, 'condition': 'rainy'}], friendly_name=Basel / Binningen @ 2021-06-20T13:07:57.922758+02:00>)>

My question as a template newbie: How do I get the forecast temperature of the next day out of this with a template? I assume this must be the the temperature in forecast[0], but this is how far I get

Hi,
I’ve managed to use the weather.xxx_hourly entity to get the forecast for the current day.
Fist you need to head over to Integrations, select Home. There will be a disabled entity for an hourly forecast, enable it.
You can then use the same array notation, but it will give you the forecast for the hour you indicate rather than the day…
{{ state_attr('weather.xxx_hourly', 'forecast')[4].temperature }}

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HEllo,

could somebody help me to extrct the data from my local weather?

http://daten.buergernetz.bz.it/services/weather/district/6/bulletin?format=json&lang=de

And this was the parameter to extract for the precipitation of the day: $.forecasts[0].rainTo

How can i implente the value from raintto in a condition for a automation?

Thanks a lot

Philipp

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This is a late reply, but might help somebody.
I’d suggest to use NodeRed which can manipulate data and create a node sensor that will provide you with the desired data.