How would you tranfer Hass.io from your Pi to your new Nuc?

finity · August 17, 2019, 8:58pm

I can’t answer the first part but the answer to the second part is that you can just create another (non-hassio) HA container and experiment to your hearts content. If it messes up just delete the container (easily done with portainer) and then just create another one in seconds. You can have as many HA containers as will fit on your machine. The only requirement is that they be named differently and use a different http port.

That’s the beauty of docker.

flamingm0e · August 17, 2019, 9:09pm

A proper usable operating system?

Your NAS is not a generic Linux OS. It is a customized version of Linux that the NAS manufacturer has created.

Simply put, your NAS, unless it runs a normal Linux distro, isn’t going to run hassio in its current form.

PLEASE READ THE LINK YOU HAVE BEEN PROVIDED A FEW TIMES NOW. ACTUALLY READ IT.

Then the installation script has lots of information in it, if you take a few moments to try and understand what it’s doing.

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/home-assistant/hassio-installer/master/hassio_install.sh

It’s not that hard to decipher, you just need to read it. It’s a pretty simple script. Look at the other files it downloads to your system.

fletch101e · August 17, 2019, 9:31pm

So the bottom line is it still doesn’t work on a nas. That’s all you needed to say.

flamingm0e · August 17, 2019, 9:57pm

Well I already said that, but you didn’t read it…

fletch101e · August 17, 2019, 11:12pm

Ok well here is a chance to guide me right. I can’t do the real thing until the hardware arrives, but nothing is stopping me from practicing in Virtual Box right now.

There are several versions of ubuntu to chose from- I am guessing the server version runs a lot of services I don’t need…or do I?

kanga_who · August 17, 2019, 11:20pm

I’m confused about where you are at now. Are you going to be running hass.io on a NUC, or a Synology NAS?

finity · August 17, 2019, 11:21pm

I just run everything in Debian 9. Pretty much Linux OS would probably work but it just seems that there is more support for a Debian based system (debian, ubuntu, raspbian, etc).

fletch101e · August 17, 2019, 11:30pm

Intel I7 Nuc

kanga_who · August 17, 2019, 11:31pm

So follow my original instructions.

kanga_who:

1.) Backup all your yaml files, lovelace config, etc to your PC, USB or HDD
2.) Install Ubuntu or similar Linux OS (I use Ubuntu 16.04 LTS on my NUC)
3.) Follow this guide , specifically from the line " To prepare your machine for the Hass.io installation, run the following commands:"

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sudo -i
apt-get install software-properties-common
add-apt-repository universe
apt-get update
apt-get install -y apparmor-utils apt-transport-https avahi-daemon ca-certificates curl dbus jq network-manager socat
curl -fsSL get.docker.com | sh

curl -sL "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/home-assistant/hassio-installer/master/hassio_install.sh" | bash -s
4.) Copy your yaml files to the NUC, normally in the location /usr/share/hassio/homeassistant

That whole process will take 30mins and you are up and running.

Extra Step, install Portainer to manage your Docker containers.

sudo docker run -d -p 9000:9000 --name portainer --restart always -v /var/run/docker.sock:/var/run/docker.sock -v portainer_data:/data portainer/portainer

Get ubuntu form Here Use the torrent link - either 16.04 LTS, or 18.04 LTS. Server or desktop won’t really matter.

fletch101e · August 17, 2019, 11:35pm

Downloading 18.04 now. But I have a VERY slow comcast internet so it will take a couple of hours. thanks.

flamingm0e · August 17, 2019, 11:52pm

No, the server version is “headless”, aka, you manage it via SSH only. It doesn’t run a desktop.

It doesn’t have ANY services in it until you install the services you need. It’s a blank slate with just enough to get the OS running and usable to create what you want. This isn’t Windows.

klogg · August 18, 2019, 9:05am

I’ve been following this thread with some interest and not without a little amusement

I suspect more and more people are coming to HA from a Windows background without really understanding what the underlying technology is.

I think all of you giving advice on this thread have been incredibly patient (and helpful) but I sometimes think that elsewhere on this forum there can be an attitude of disdain that comes through towards people who don’t know Linux and have been ‘brought up’ to think the world begins and ends with Windows. As I said this thread shows how it should be done.

Just my Sunday morning thoughts…

fletch101e · August 18, 2019, 5:33pm

kanga_who:

3.) Follow this guide , specifically from the line " To prepare your machine for the Hass.io installation, run the following commands:"

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sudo -i
apt-get install software-properties-common
add-apt-repository universe
apt-get update
apt-get install -y apparmor-utils apt-transport-https avahi-daemon ca-certificates curl dbus jq network-manager socat
curl -fsSL get.docker.com | sh

curl -sL "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/home-assistant/hassio-installer/master/hassio_install.sh" | bash -s

Ok I got through step 3 so far. No errors but I don’t see any sign of that shared directory being created. How can I verify that HA actually installed?
Thanks

flamingm0e · August 18, 2019, 5:36pm

docker ps -a should show you home assistant and supervisor containers running.

And by share are you referring to /use/share/hassio?

fletch101e · August 18, 2019, 5:41pm

Yes that is the share I mean. It is not there.
I ran your command (and another one I found) and they both say portainer and the test app - Hello world are there but no HA.

fletch101e · August 18, 2019, 5:51pm

I am going to try again later after lunch.but I did find this command below is where it is going wrong.
It gets permission denied error when it’s trying to run and create that directory. Even sudo doesn’t help.

curl -sL "https://raw.githubusercontent.com/home-assistant/hassio-installer/master/hassio_install.sh" | bash -s~~~

flamingm0e · August 18, 2019, 6:04pm

What’s with all the tildes in your command?

kanga_who · August 18, 2019, 6:38pm

Did you start by using sudo -i as listed?

fletch101e · August 18, 2019, 6:43pm

Just me trying to format it.

fletch101e · August 18, 2019, 7:03pm

I copied/pasted it all in. I did not see any errors, but about to pickup lunch and when I get back, I will try that whole section again and see what happens.

When things were not working, I just tried that last command on it’s own and saw the permission denied error