Hue outdoor motion sensor does not change on_off to detected in ZHA and cant change sensitivity level

[cvester]

Just added a new Hue outdoor motion sensor in ZHA.
To my big surprise it does not change the “on_off” - it always says “clear” while occupancy changes to “detected”.

I would assume “on_off” is what other sensors calls “ias_zone” which normally stays “detected” 2 minutes and not just 10 seconds.

Anyone got a solution? Not another automation fix like:

Hue Outdoor Motion Sensor is not detecting motion

Slightly OT, but the delay & service are a bit cleaner as action: - variables: toOn: '{{trigger.to_state.state == "on"}}' - delay: '{{0 if toOn else 120}}' - service: '{{"switch.turn_on" if toOn else "switch.turn_off"}}'

but a real solution?

Another problem is that I cant change sensitivity level.
If I try to do like this:

It still says 2 next time I get the property… why?

[cvester]

I found out about the sensitivity level part - its just me that is being ignorant

Setting Hue lamp default power-on without bridge?

I actually followed @bowler instructions to the letter and it worked for all my Hue Lights. I also did these for a TRADFRI bulb E14W and worked like a charm. One important note, for those that had an issue, which i found after a bit of experimentation. After choosing the OnOff endpoint and select the start_up_on_off attribute, just write “off” to the value and then Set Zibgee Attribute button. If you click on Get Zibgee Attribute, which returns a value “StartUpOnOff.on” and just change the on …

[crlogic]

Don’t use on_off, use occupancy. This is normal for the Hue. Have two indoor, one outdoor.

[cvester]

I guess I have to do that - its just a little funny it shows the on_off when it doesn’t change it?

[crlogic]

Yes, coming from Sonoff PIR I was surprised as well at first.

[cvester]

What made you change from sonoff to hue? False-positives from sonoff sensors like me?

[crlogic]

Yes phantom triggers did happen occasionally. But the biggest factor was battery life!

With two AAA’s the Hue opens up more aggressive cooldown with far better battery life.

I have also started testing Zooz ZSE18’s for their USB powered option. Sadly they just take longer to trigger compared to Hue. We are talking about at most a ~1 sec lag here. But in high/fast-traffic area’s that makes a big difference.

Next experiment - mmWave

[hageson (Howard Ageson)]

Yes, I was puzzled when I couldn’t seem to change the value - until I entered the new value in the “Value” field instead of the “Manufacturer Code Override” field before clicking on the SET ZIGBEE ATTRIBUTE link. Then it worked.

So, I wonder what the purpose of the “Manufacturer Code Override” field is?