All these automations system are horrible. NOT ONE is complete.
I tried many of them. KNX, CRESTRON, HA, HOMEY, ST, HC3, JEEDOM, etc
Is it a will from all of them to be sometimes weak, sometimes unskilled ?
Example :
HA is the best for supporting device with great community. but the dashboard is not for public people if you want something sexy and ergonomic (as a UI/UX designer i know what i am saying, yaml, dwainsdash tileboard or whatever else is cute but not a final.)
ST is the best for it s super sexy app and design but lacks of compatibility devices. No GH direct, compatibility no Chromecast, and no Sony Lg TV (lobbyists??)
CRESTRON may have the most beautifull GUI
Homey unstable app and not so UI cool but has the best workflow.
etc NOT ONE SYSTEM CAN DO IT ALL
Well in fact Google Home is the best for doing it all but lacks of automations !
So now i will be fighting for having ST app as UI and another system like HA running to add more devices to fill the gap.
But has anyone managed to, like mqtt HA devices to ST ?
Or push GH devices to ST ?
I take from this verbose outburst that you think HA should have a better UI? If you are a UI/UX dev as stated, it should be easy for you to help contribute to the project and improve the default UI.
I look forward to seeing your contributions and trying out some of the new features you introduce.
Exact, i spent around 60 hours on each which is quite enough to understand that this canât do that and that canât do this. In fact the solution is in each of these, but not in just one. Amazing.
If you read my post and feel aggressivity am sorry but it s not the idea.
The idea is objectivity to perform together a better future.
Ok, and what can HA not do? You can design the interface to whatever you want with CSS.
Also, for me a true smart home shouldnât need an interface at all, the house should be smart enough to do the things you want. I donât get why everyone wants this nice and shiny interfaces,I donât want to take out my phone or walk to the next tablet to turn on a light or set the thermostat, instead I build automations that cover this needs.
Same here. Functional interface for when itâs needed (checking cctv feeds, seeing if anyone is home when youâre not or whatever). No need for a million fancy animated buttons if you never need to press them, and you shouldnât need to press them because the house should be doing it for you.
I canât completely agree because the tablet and phone are part of a smart home and raise it to a higher level. I have an immediate overview of the development of weather, temperature, pressure and other variables. I have an accessible plan that I can change at any time, tasks provided by calendar and more.
Disagree with you there. I think wall mounted tablets look ridiculous.
I have a window to check the weather , the point youâre missing is what do you do with that information? If you look at your tablet in the wall and say âlooks like itâs getting cold, Iâll turn the heating onâ youâre doing it wrong. Homeassistant should have turned the heating on for you.
Now this you do potentially need a UI for, but why would you want to walk to a tablet on the wall to see it rather than stay on the sofa and check your phone? Or get Alexa to read it out to you? OK, so you decide you want to use the ui, but how jazzy does it need to be? Again, the point you missed here is the difference between functional things that you do need a UI for, and what homeassistant should be doing for you.
What Marc said
I had a floorplan and everything nicely designed in the past, but at one point I noticed I almost never used it and it was more showing off to friends and family how cool it is.
Now I only âdesignedâ my system monitoring pages, but also this itâs just to feed the geek in me, I will be notified about all the things that I need from these pages like high CPU temp or update available.
You may be right in some things, but I think that expressing a personal opinion is not a bad thing, and above all it is up to each of us to decide how to create the structure of the house. Or am i wrong?
Not at all, but the structure of the house isnât whatâs being discussed here - itâs âhow jazzy does the UI for homeassistant need to beâ.
Of course there are things that will always need to be done in the UI, regardless of how you choose to structure it, but the UI just needs to be âgoodâ and functional imo.
Yes, I have to agree on this. I know that we have turned a bit, but I just wanted to express that HA is a great project and not completely finished, it is just still evolving.
I think you are not in the right place @supertabouret.
HA is not for commercial purposes, I think you should already know that.
You must keept to continue to fight and pray
@Joca Commercial smart systems have same weaknesses the opposite way. ST has great UI and buildflow but miss devices. HA has almost all devices but lack of sexy UI. In between both we have Homey. It s life, i am impressed with HA and have a lot of respectfor the amazingsdevs and commuity. I just when wonder who will make the correct smart system.
If anybody reading that has the skill to push HA, let me know i had be happy to share my guidelines for the final step that would kill all the others.
Isnât this kinda like comparing Ferrari, Honda and Mercedes? All make cars but goal, customer, price point, etc all different. No one is truly bad or good just different implementations and comparison is a bit silly.
, the point youâre missing is what do you do with that information? If you look at your tablet in the wall and say âlooks like itâs getting cold, Iâll turn the heating onâ youâre doing it wrong. Homeassistant should have turned the heating on for you.
