IPAD 3 IOS 9.3.5 support or not?

[joachi]

same problem here. i understand if the app is not supported, but the webpage should work?

[Toudewolbers (Tim)]

No doesnt work. I tryed all the browsers available and jailbreak etc. No go. I even tryed to change to user agent but no go. I really would like to see on a website my HA. those old ipads are nice to see and fast enough.

[joachi]

Totally agree

[rkjr]

Same here. Really want this back.
It was working until I recently logged out…

[escasey88]

I’m new to home assistant and forums but I have a workaround that I am using currently. Its clunky but it works well for me.

Workaround for Lovelace on older iPad (if you have a x86 server)

I’ve been looking for a way to repurpose my iPad 2 and using it as some kind of control panel for my Home Assistant install seemed like a great idea. I’m new to Home Assistant, and self hosted things in general. I’m actually new to posting on forums, this may be my 2nd or 3rd post on any forum ever. As such, I’m not even sure where this post should belong. Anyway, on to my workaround. I have Home Assistant running in a docker on an Open Media Vault system. I spun up a Firefox docker contain…

[nagubal]

Just saw this in the 0.117 announcement

We improved compatibility and Home Assistant is now usable on more, mostly older, devices.

I just updated and tried on my old iPad, and it works: Version 0.117 brings the iPad 3 compatbility back!
Many thanks to the HA team!

[rkjr]

wow, That is great.
Cant wait to check if it works on a legacy ios

[nagubal]

My iPad 3 is on iOS 9.3.5, so legacy iOS.
Only small problem is that my custom cards are not loaded (such as the slider-entity-row). I made a simple dashboard for the iPad to solve this problem

[rkjr]

@nagubal

I checked with the home assistant app on 9.3.5.
Yes it works, and custom card doesn’t load for me either.
Very slow, but it makes my old ipad great again
With some exception of devices that needs to be new, it feels good
to run home IOT with old, repurposed devices.

[puncake]

Guys how did you get this to work? I’m on iOS 9.3.5 also on an ipad2 and can’t seem to login. Tried legacy authentication too but that throws a security error. I installed home assistant on the iPad by downloading on a newer ipad with the same apple id, it’s there but upon launching safari everything goes to hell. Tried chrome and Firefox too, the latest supported versions but no luck. Any ideas anyone?

[puncake]

Which browser are you using? Safari, chrome and Firefox won’t let me login. I have the companion app installed, it launches the login page and then I get a wrong user pass error. My home assistant instance is exposed to Google for what is worth so I’m using SSL with no way to access internally (is there a fallback?). Really want to mount that ipad2, even bought a mounting pad lol. Played around with tileboard but I guess in my case I have to run it as a standalone server right? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[mrbasque]

I have an old ipad2 with iOS 9.3.5 and I finally GOT IT TO WORK!

Came across this post, because I was struggling with the same issue. Authentication via the UI gives me a wrong username of password error.

SOLUTION:

There is an option within HA to bypass to login screen, explained here:

Accessing lovelace dashboard without logging into home assistant

You can bypass the login screen by adding and modifying in your configuration.yaml the following example homeassistant: auth_providers: - type: homeassistant - type: trusted_networks trusted_networks: - 192.168.x.x ## your device IP trusted_users: 192.168.x.x: xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ### the user id allow_bypass_login: true

Note that the userId is not the username, but the ID. this can be retrieved via the users config screen (http://homeassistant.local:8123/config/users)

After making this change, you can access HA with safari (or any other Kiosk browser app) by clicking trusted networks option below the login/password box :

[puncake]

I’ll give this a try asap and report back! If it works you’ll be my hero haha

[JosePDR (Jose Torres)]

I tried but i am not seeing the Trusted Networks button. What am i doing wrong? i added in configuration.yaml as follows:

auth_providers:
    - type: homeassistant 
    - type: trusted_networks
      trusted_networks:
        - 10.0.0.61 ## your device IP
      trusted_users:
        10.0.0.61: MYIDFROMUSERS ### the user id
      allow_bypass_login: true

Thanks in advance to all!!!

[coolinx]

Same here; I added the trusted networks and trusted users updated with my own information. The user ID is not the name, but the actual ID of the user account in Home Assistant, got that. Also read the on-line help on this topic: Authentication Providers - Home Assistant
I understand that there should appear a list of users below the part where you can enter login credentials, but I don’t see this on the login page. Are there some prerequisites that I need to set to enable this? Maybe someone has some trouble shooting tips, as I can’t see anything related to this in the logs.

[coolinx]

Ok, this works for me now(had a config error which I fixed). I can login, but because I have multiple users I don’t use the allow_bypass_login.

[calvin.a.love (mungmylife)]

I’m trying to do this with an iPad Mini 1…can’t download any new browsers so I guess I’m stuck with the older version of Safari. I’ve added this ipad as a trusted user and the option to login as trusted user appears…but then it just says “logging in with trusted networks” followed by “login aborted” with the option to “start over”

…would be great if we could find a way to keep these older devices from making it to the landfill…especially given apple’s red tape is the only thing keeping them from being useful.

I’ve also jailbroken the device but can’t find any useful browsers…any suggestions would greatly appreciated.

[coolinx]

After I got the login working, the safari browser was not able to display any Lovelace dashboard. So the login isn’t the only hurdle to take…

[skalec]

Hello Community,

i have posted my solution in

Found an old Ipad 2, Does it worth to usi it as dashboard?

Hey, I found in some boxes an old ipad2 and I am thinking to use it as wall mounted dashboard. Are people have any similar setup? What is your experience? Does Home assistant app in iOs works? Does it worth all this or I should go and find another second hand tablet? Thank you

[555wolfman (Olaf Schermann)]

Browser engine on iOS 9.3.5 is too old for lovelace UI.

but i found a working solution:

Solution: 2 steps

1. the last version of homeassistant docker container that kind of works with workaround is: 2021.12
   Next version 2022.1 does not, even with workaround. 2021.12 has working knx integration

2. login token does still not work with 2021.12 so you need to switch to an alternatin authentication method, like trusted networks

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Here is what you need to do (in this order !!!)

sudo docker pull homeassistant/home-assistant:2021.12

sudo docker run -d
–restart unless-stopped
–name=homeassistant
-h homeassistant
-e PUID=1001
-e PGID=1001
-e TZ=CET
–net=host
-v homeassistant:/config
homeassistant/home-assistant:2021.12

3. connect on a PC and configure a user (doesn’t work with trusted networks)
   http://homeassistant.local:8123

4. enable trusted networks in configuration.yaml (insert first 5 rows end change to your net adress)

sudo nano /var/lib/docker/volumes/homeassistant/_data/configuration.yaml

---

homeassistant:
auth_providers:
- type: trusted_networks
trusted_networks:
- 192.168.8.0/24

Configure a default setup of Home Assistant (frontend, api, etc)

default_config:

Text to speech

tts:

• platform: google_translate

group: !include groups.yaml
automation: !include automations.yaml
script: !include scripts.yaml
scene: !include scenes.yaml
knx: !include knx.yaml # if you need knx integration

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5. (optional) add your knx configuration (no need for configuring IP interface or IP router)
   this is my knx.yaml:

---

---

#knx:

light:

• name: Deckenlicht_Glastüre
  address: 0/0/4
• name: Bar_Licht1
  address: 0/0/10
• name: Wandlicht_Glastüre_Stiege
  address: 0/0/11

cover:

• name: Raffstore_Küche_Hoch_Tief
  move_long_address: 1/0/12
• name: Raffstore_Küche_Stop
  move_long_address: 1/0/13
• name: Raffstore Küche Pos1
  position_address: 1/0/27
• name: Raffstore Küche Pos2
  position_address: 1/0/28

switch:

• name: Sofa_Stehlampe_steckdose_rechts
  address: 0/0/3
• name: Alles_Aus1
  address: 0/5/1
• name: Stiege_Steckdose_Christbaum
  address: 2/0/11

sensor:

• name: Strommessung_all_abfragen
  state_address: 5/0/0
  type: “active_energy”
  state_class: “total_increasing”

---

6. restart homeassistant
   (ether via web browser on PC or via:
   docker restart homeassistant
   )

7. open safari on your iPad2 (iOS 9.3.5) and open the url:
   http://homeassistant.local:8123
   select your user and have fun!