This may be a stupid question, mine normally are, so I appologise in advance.
I have Hassio on a Pi3 and it’s been working fine for a few years, last night the red light started flashing and HA was not accessable. I figured it was to do with the power, plugged a firestick power lead in and back up and running, left it half an hour and then plugged the original power lead back in and all was good. This has made me wonder if it’s time to upgrade to a Pi4 or 5?
If I do, what is the process of transferring my current setup to the new PI?
can I just put my existing SD card in the new PI and off it goes Hassio boots up and all as was?
do i need to do a backup of my existing, install a fresh hass.io on new PI and then restore the back up from old one?
because new PI’s have different processors etc, do I need to set everything up from scratch again?
Best to find out why it is failing first. Most probably the SD card failing which will not be solved if you put it in a pi4.
If you are buying a new pi4, don’t bother go for something like a second hand NUC or thin client. More power for less or similar cash, and less issues with power and sd cards. plenty of guides on youtube.
Downside to NUC or thin client is much higher power consumption, so higher running cost. So if you need the power go for NUC. If you don’t and cost is a factor, then decide knowing it may look the same price but it isn’t the same long term.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but I thought one advantage to the RPi line is that there are “canned” HA installations available. In other words, no messing with setting up the OS, then layering HA on top of that. Obviously some would see that as a disadvantage, but I figured it was worth noting.
The power consumption may be higher but by the time you add ssd drives and powered hubs to a pi, (needed for reliability) you are probably not talking a lot. and the advantage is in a years time when you inevitably want a more powerful system, you will have one.
Thanks for the replies. This is the first time it has happened, never had the red flashing light before, I am just preparing myself if it happens again, so looking at what is involved in ‘upgrading’
I must admit I don’t know what a NUC, I do have an old laptop with linux installed that’s not used and did think about installing on that but that does seem like a bit of an overkill for my simple setup, apart from the SD I don’t have any extra’s plugged into it.
I know it’s been a few months since last posting in this thread but I changed the powerlead and that fixed the issue but I am now finding with recent HA updates the PI3 is struggling so I have got a PI 5 coming today. Hoping it’s as simple as installing HA on it and then restore a backup from my PI3, it’s been a few years since I set up the PI3 so hope I get it right lol
Yep should be that simple, the biggest issue will be the change of ip address. So if running something like an mqtt server you may need to re assign all the stuff that logs into Mqtt. This may well affect other addons as well. May be easier to set the ip address of the new pi to the same as the old one on your router, before installing HA.
Apart from an issue when tried switching from eth to wlan, sorted and now working on my new pi5. so much faster than the old Pi3. Now can play and look for other add ons I don’t really need but look good LOL
I’m looking to do the same and retire the Pi3. The UI hangs on load and becomes unresponsive. That then breaks my ZigBee automation for a door sensor which is driving the other half mad.
I think the root cause might be a recent Shelly Plus Uni install reading 4 thermometers every 60 seconds. Don’t have the issue when it isn’t running.
I’ve since upgraded again from the pi5 to an n150 mini pc. but at the moment it seems like a bit of an overkill as HA is all I have installed on it LOL
LOL, I only put HA on there at the weekend without thinking about how much of an overkill it would be. My issue with installing proxmox isn’t learning how to use it but knowing how much time I would waste playing with new stuff I can install
Is it true the intel nucs pull more power? Yes.
Is it worth sticking with pi for saving 12watts? No, not in my opinion.
Lets look at the true cost of upgrading from pi to intel nuc if your electric cost was $0.3855 per kwh (including all the itemized cost Con Edison cons us with).
Daily cost (24/7 @ full CPU load) — price: $0.3855/kWh
Electricity price: $0.3855 per kWh
Daily cost = (Watts / 1000) * 24 * $0.3855
31-day cost = Daily cost * 31
Notes: based on the image’s “full CPU load” power (RPI5=8 W, N95=20 W, N100=21 W, i7-1360P=77 W).
Real-world idle/boost, PSU efficiency, and peripherals can change results.
I rather give statistics and let you choose because we all use home assistant but we dont all use it the same way. Some of us run some heavy integrations (frigate, scrypted, etc.) some of us run lightweight automation. Some of us run supervised HasOs on pi, some run docker, some run Supervised in proxmox along side other servers on a single device so theres no one sized shoe fits all, because some of us are trying to keep cost down.
lol it seems it but it wont be for long i to web from pi4b to pi5 to n150, and now i need more power but this is where things start getting out of hand lol waiting a but of time to get some statistics about the jetson orin nano running has os. So i can have fast & full local tts, llm, and fast frigate & scrypted performances all on one device. So long as my runni g cost dont exceed $15/month im okay with it.
i’m like you, as long as long as cost isn’t really high it is not a deal breaker.
I would like to try adding ollama but at the moment I don’t have any voice devices that connect directly to HA so wonder if there is a need for a local llm, but I have been considering a ESP32-S3-BOX-3 but this will then be an area I’ve never looked at in the past.
Even then, if looking at proxmox, I see on the proxmox helper script list that was posted above that there are 3 different HA’s which would be the one to use? I currently just use HAOS and have half a dozen addons including cloudflared and samba backup etc, and I see the container version says addons can’t be used.
