New Aqara Human Presence Sensor FP1

Hi did you finally manage?

Currently I use Conbee, Soon moving to ZHA. It works with ZHA?

Oh thatā€™s not good to hear

Apparently others have better results but I do read a lot of feedback on poor presence.
So my advice: IF you decide to buy one from Ali then make sure you have free return included, the price does not change but self-return-costs from here (France) are over 30EUR (needs tracking) and thus half the price thrown away if you donot want it or if it does not work.

So you think defect is from hardware and not from software adjustments?

I have not yet found an option to tweak software. My main issues are with low reach (<3m instead of specā€™ed 5) and losing presence even if the device is less than 1m next to me. Triggering the device by slight movement can also be measured by my much cheaper sonoff motion detector so not sure what to think of itā€¦expensive at a minimum if you (as I am) looking for ā€˜presenceā€™
On the upside, the direction of movement is quite nice which you can use to steer other stuff with, the low range however makes it usable in a small-ish area only

EDIT: both devices sadly do no behave the same tooā€¦Where I am still testing, I placed the within 10cm of one another pointing in the same directionā€¦this is what I seeā€¦ the left one is correct but sometimes (!) the right one isā€¦

The new tuya mmWave sensors look like much better value than the fp1.

Along the specs on Ali it has a 3m rangeā€¦it is about half the price of FP1 but not better on performanceā€¦sadlyā€¦but maybe this is not at all (legally) feasible with this type of radar-device?

Specs tells me 7-10m range?

where do you see that? It could be a translation but I only see 3m
Tuya Wifi/zigbee Human Presence Sensor Mmwave Radar Detection Pir Motion Sensor Smart Life App Smart Home Security Protection - Pir Motion Sensor - AliExpress

I was looking at this one
https://a.aliexpress.com/_EQ7UuKN

More mmwave products, niceā€¦ I will wait feedback then as up to 9m is really great (for me)

As far as I know, the review on ZY-M100 Tuya Human Presence Sensor Review | Blakadder's Smarthome Shenanigans is about that model I mentioned (https://a.aliexpress.com/_EQ7UuKN).

Yepā€¦missed that, I just searched Ali for tuya mmwaveā€¦so there are more products now ā€¦good news as FP1 still stinks with me and was high in price

This article might also be interesting for readers hereā€¦ comparing 3 commercial mmwave sensors including the FP1 and Tuya ones.

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To tweak the advanced options such as detecting in which area of the room detection occurred etc, is the only option to get an aqara hub? No way to do it via home assistant or any way else, is there?

hello,
reading whole thread seems that fp1 is not that much?

at the moment there is still missing zones functionality for Zigbee2MQTT (https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt/issues/11019#issuecomment-1293828698) Is there some progress of the implementation in z2mqtt?

seems also accuracy of sensor / so many false negativesā€¦

Is anyone happy to share some use-cases of that device? Also if there is something better as replacement?

Maybe cheap camera using frigate and coral is better alternative?

thanks!

I have the FP1 setup in MQTT and without zones it kind of makes it not that great depending on the room. It works great for me but I also have an overhead fan and if itā€™s on at any speed the occupancy will never change. I believe it doesnā€™t support zones due to it only being available in China, at least from what I read.

I read elsewhere that to it works perfectly with an aqara hub in HA but you have to change the region in the Aqara app to China just to detect it before setting up in HA. It also described some other steps that sounded time consuming and I donā€™t want to purchase an aqara hub or any hub which is why I use HA.

Thereā€™s a YouTuber that built his own that supposedly works better then the FP1 but itā€™s out of stock and the guy wasnā€™t expecting so many orders so who knows when/if he will sell any others. I also believe it doesnā€™t support zones but itā€™s setup in ESPHome instead of using ZigBee

If I turn the overhead fan off it works perfectly in HA using Zigbee2MQTT but if itā€™s on the occupancy never changes. Also, if you have pets, that causes issues also depending on the room itā€™s in and if the pet is not allowed in that room but that isnā€™t common.

Apparently Aqara just started selling the P1 in China so hopefully they start selling the FP1 n other regions which is why zones donā€™t currently work in Zigbee2MQTT, at least from my research. Every other sensor works in Zigbee2MQTT but zones canā€™t be setup so you canā€™t map out the room to tell it to ignore certain areas. Itā€™s also a headache to update the firmware through Zigbee2MQTT but itā€™s double.

They are gonna start selling FP2 now. Unfortunately its WiFi :frowning:

Maybe there will be support for matterā€¦ Time will tellā€¦