NEW Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+

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For those that aren’t aware, Raspberry Pi just announced the 3B+
https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-3-model-bplus-sale-now-35/

Some of the highlights are:

  • A 1.4GHz 64-bit quad-core ARM Cortex-A53 CPU
  • Dual-band 802.11ac wireless LAN and Bluetooth 4.2
  • Faster Ethernet (Gigabit Ethernet over USB 2.0)
  • Power-over-Ethernet support (with separate PoE HAT)
  • Improved PXE network and USB mass-storage booting
  • Improved thermal management

It’s already available at places such as The Pi Hut and Pimoroni in the UK.
I have definitely just ordered one!

Who else has taken the plunge?

I’m keen to see what kind of benefits this might have for some of my uses :slight_smile: and give it a go with Hassio!

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I ordered one this morning. The Pi 3 I’m currently using for HomeAssistant will go to the kids (they love Scratch)

Anyone know if I can use the current Hassbian Image?

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I’m considering getting one of these, but to replace my Plex client :smiley:

Will have to look into Scratch.

Is Hassbian still maintained? It appeared to be last updated in Oct '17. I thought everyone had moved to Hass.io or Docker?

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No SATA, no USB3. I’m dissapointed.

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@Bieniu - I really don’t think that’s going to happen any time soon, considering the extra £££ it would incur and I would imagine the use of SATA would be pretty niché.

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I believe not - you need the latest firmware from 2018-03-13 to run it, as I understood. I guess you can install Hassbian on a current model, do all the raspbian updates, then move it over to the 3B+?

Note: I am not 100% sure that is correct, but was the impression I got reading the comments on the announcement page!

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I appreciate them improving the connectivity but I think using the gigabit terminology is deceiving when it’s over usb 2.0. At best it can’t even hit half the throughput required.

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Did they introduce separate busses for the Ethernet, USB, sdcard and Wi-Fi connections? I don’t see anything like that? That’s the real performance issue in my opinion.

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I picked up one this morning as well. Don’t really need it as so far Hass.io has been solid on my current pi but I couldn’t resist.

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Will this mean I can power it solely by Ethernet, removing the need for wall plug?

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Only if you buy the HAT for it. It doesn’t have POE directly on the network port

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The what now? :slight_smile:

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  • A 1.4GHz 64-bit quad-core ARM Cortex-A53 CPU
  • Dual-band 802.11ac wireless LAN and Bluetooth 4.2
  • Faster Ethernet (Gigabit Ethernet over USB 2.0)
  • Power-over-Ethernet support (with separate PoE HAT)
  • Improved PXE network and USB mass-storage booting
  • Improved thermal management

Notice how it says separate PoE HAT?

This is one

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As flamingm0e stated you would need the add on board that coverts the 48V POE power down to 5V that the Pi uses.

Also you would need a POE switch, POE injector or other source of power on your Ethernet line for the HAT to receive.

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@silvrr @mvdkleijn it is “Gigabit” ethernet, but it is rated for 300Mbps, still shared with the USB ports.

Some real world tests say 330Mbps with ethernet, 105Mbps wifi. See https://libreelec.tv/2018/03/libreelec-krypton-8-2-4-mr

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Well, it arrived!

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I really like the little logo’d cover just under the GPIO.

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I’m starting to get a real collection here :smirk: And this doesn’t even include the ones in use, or Zeros! EEK

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What I’m wondering…

The pi3+ has a 16% performance boost over the pi3 according to several tests.

I also heard that adding cooling fins on pi3 and older improves performance.

If you were to add cooling fins to the pi3+'s covered broadcom chip, would more than the clocked 16% be achievable? :smile:

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On the release page, they say:

Below 70°C, we use the improvements to increase the core frequency to 1.4GHz. Above 70°C, we drop to 1.2GHz, and use the improvements to decrease the core voltage

So, I think if you can keep the core cool, you avoid the drop in performance and get more out of it for longer.

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So i got my Raspberry Pi 3 B+ and downloaded the Pi 3 image “resinos-hassio-1.3-raspberrypi3.img” but have now have realized that it’s not yet supported with Pi 3 B+.

Anyone with insight that knows when the support for hassio will come to the Raspberry Pi3 Model B+

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Yea, I haven’t had any luck with the Pi3 Hassio image either.
I’m going to try and see what’s going on, but haven’t had chance yet.

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