Possible to show tracked devices in default view?

In frontend new devices show automatically in bubbles. They disappear and re-appear on its own.

For default view when things are grouped can same be achieved?

Seems like you have to manually list each device in the group.
For default view I tried using group.all_devices but nothing shows up in Family group box.

At the moment, what you want isn’t possible. But you could help make it happen by voting on this feature request.

@fanaticDavid i dont think thats what he means.

i think he wants to put all devices in a group with 1 command, including new devices.

and thats not possible, for what i know.

@dv8ed the dissappearing and reappearing can be controlled.
if you set hide_if_away in the known_devices file to no, they dont dissapear after they are known.
but you have to put all new devices manually to the desired group.

@fanaticDavid I voted for feature it’s pretty similar. HASS is a really great software I’m glad I chose it over HomeGenie and openHAB.

@ReneTode all devices in one group box lets say “Family” each member it will say if they’re Home or Away. If a new entity shows up I would like it to automatically show so I can determine to hide it or not. That way if someone jumps on my network I know about it. I saw an entity show up thought someone hacked my wifi. yeah I’m trying to get away from putting all new devices manually. I liked how new entities pop up in their bubbles on frontend.

at the moment they only show up if you dont have a default_view group.
we hope that it would be possible in the future to have them show up in the tab you choose.

till then if you want to see new bubbles, rename default_view to something else and set view to yes.
you have to click 1 more time after starting the frontend, but you have youre bubbles back.

i found out how to show the group all_devices (i didnt even know it was there :wink: )

put this in customize:

    group.all_devices:
      hidden: false

@ReneTode Thank you!!! Exactly what I wanted! Hope we can enable it on default view in the future.

I saw an example config somewhere to customize ‘home’ and ‘not home’ with capital letter H and N, I’ll do that a little bit later. Also added friendly name Family otherwise it will show in a box called All Devices.

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@dv8ed how did you do the ‘restart Hass’? Can you explain in a bit more detail?

automation.yaml

  - alias: Restart HASS
    trigger:
      - platform: state
        entity_id: input_boolean.restart_hass
        from: 'off'
        to: 'on'
    action:
      service: homeassistant.restart

input_boolean.yaml

    restart_hass:
      name: Restart HASS
      initial: off
      icon: mdi:autorenew

group.yaml

  - input_boolean.restart_hass
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