I went back to my Garadget that’s been in a box for a couple years. It now supports MQTT. No issues integrating with Home Assistant and everything is now local. Bye-bye MyQ.
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So Far the two best options to get around this are:
ratgo (i just ordered two)
or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgebGcBuHxI
using tasmoda / esphome to control a wireless remote. Then using their own remote to control the device.
I ultimately went the ratgo route, as it’s less wiring and I like things neat, but I do worry that they’ll update the firmware to break it. (I super doubt they’d be able to do this though).
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Just disable internet access, the unit doesn’t need it anyways with ratdgo installed.
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I have seen the request to contact the Chamberlain Group to voice our opinion about the decision to block the HA integration, but I think a better approach would be for HA to create a petition and get all members to sign it, whether they use the myQ integration or not.
I will probably use ratgdo as a temporary workaround, but I will not buy another Chamberlain product unless they reverse course on this decision. I only bought their product because it integrated so well with HA. Their decision is motivated by greed, not by customer satisfaction.
I think this Iwe cann all settle on.
All the companies that made anti customer decisions like recently Philips hue and others are on my NO BUY list.
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There is one already.
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I have zero interest in petitioning a company that hates us to hate us less.
Fuck them!!!
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I’m not sure how effective the petition will be in this case, but I suppose it can’t make it worse.
I however, prefer to just not purchase any of the company’s products or any subscription services related to it. As consumers we vote with our wallets and that is the only thing these companies really understand.
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Agree. But, tough to wallet vote on a garage door opener.
It is not like buying beer. Because it does not happen often!
I have an older LiftMaster LM80EVS opener from 2018 with an external MyQ internet gateway, and a simple dumb wired pushbutton bought from Amazon connected via two terminals on the opener itself, so I’m not sure I need the intelligence that a ratgdo brings, as you can literally short the wires and it opens/closes.
I also already have a Gogogate2 I installed a few years ago to try to improve Alexa/Google integration, before I started using HA. So I’m wondering if I can either add another universal WiFi opener like the Meross, or maybe add a Gogogate2 integration if there is one?
True, but not buying their subscriptions can show their plan isn’t working either
Or not buying any of their junky “camera” keypad addon devices the ads in the app always show that are useless outside their walled garden.
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Hello Valiante,
- ratgdo would not work on your gdo - there is no extra information nor control that ratgdo can bring.
- If you click the blue “add integration” button under your Settings section, you likely can see this, which is part of HA core integration.
You could find further documentation on the HA website: Gogogate2 and ismartgate - Home Assistant (home-assistant.io)
I’ve just read this article from The Verge, which sums up multiple of these issues happening currently in the Smart Home industry, including MyQ, Philips Hue, etc.
The author, brings up a 2016 FTC blog post which supposed to help manufacturers and customers about what to expect from a product.
In 2016, the FTC issued a blog post that asked manufacturers to answer a series of questions while designing a connected device. Even in 2023, the answers are still unclear for many products.
The FTC’s questions are:
- Are you selling a device, a service, or both? What are you telling consumers you’re selling?
- Are consumers getting a fixed-term rental or subscription, or are they getting something they will own and can rely on for the life of the device?
- Would reasonable consumers expect to be able to keep using the device – and have it be fully functional – if the company, even many years later, rides off into the sunset? Would they expect the device to have an “expiration date”?
- Could consumers keep using your device in the ways they would reasonably expect based on their experience with similar devices?
- What did you tell consumers at the outset – or what would they otherwise expect – about the security you would provide for the life of the device?
As general it would be a nice thing if all manufacturers would answer these questions, because as a buyer we would have a clear expectation what we are buying.
NabuCasa could have a statement to answer these questions as well to show off the industry that how you should face your customers and could ask any partners to do the same as well to provide more clarity.
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Manufacturers don’t like answering questions like that. Because they generate even more questions and can inform consumers about aspects of a product/service that the manufacturers often purposely muddy.
Well, I can tell about my route. First I used ZigBee devices and weren’t happy with their performance and stability at all and the lack of proper debugging options or configurations to improve the situation let me to get rid all of this little black boxes which are often advertised as “compatible” (while in reality sometimes only a subset of sensor/options work).
Long storey short today I have a clear expectation what I want: 100% local & 100% private control and that’s why I only buy 100% esphome compatible devices nowadays. No more black boxes but just full control.
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The ratgdo hardware design is not open hardware, but it is only a few resistors and a pair of transistors so fairly easy to reverse engineer.
I’m sure this will be buried but Chamberlain group sells local homekit bridge devices already that connect your opener directly to homekit without needing the cloud connection
I have the Liftmaster 819LMB and it works perfectly in home-assistant with my Chamberlain branded garage door opener. It’s super responsive and doesn’t need an active internet connection to work, just wifi
@Valiante you should be able to swap the internet gateway out for an 819LMB Home Bridge to connect the garage door opener directly to home assistant via HomeKit
Discontinued 1+ years ago.
sells → used to sell
Plus, why would anyone want to pay Chamberlain, after they did all that to their customers?
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