Third reality motion sensor 3RMS16BZ

Rich37804 · May 22, 2024, 6:49pm

I have about 10 of these. They have been working pretty much flawlessly for about a year. There was a recent firmware update that changed to cool down time to 4 seconds. This just doesnt work… After a week or so, they put out another firmware. I was hoping this would fix things, but it didnt. all it did was seem to add about a 1 second delay between detection and reporting to HA.
Does anyone know if there is a way to adjust these 2 settings?

Sir_Goodenough · May 22, 2024, 7:29pm

Might be in Z2m. Not sure about ZHA.
You might get a better answer if you state how you are connected to them.

Rich37804 · May 22, 2024, 9:57pm

ZHA, but willing to set up Z2m on another network to solve the issue…

CO_4X4 · May 22, 2024, 10:21pm

Did you get them from Amazon? If so try to write them and ask if there is a parameter you can change to set that value. They are fairly responsive there, or. you can open a ticket on Contact us – 3reality but they aren’t as responsive.

Rich37804 · May 22, 2024, 10:24pm

I sent a message to support a few days ago. Ill try Amazon

CO_4X4 · May 22, 2024, 10:27pm

I worked with them fairly extensively to fix their smart plugs when a firmware update really screwed them up and they were very accommodating and updated the firmware to fix the problem.

Rich37804 · May 22, 2024, 10:32pm

I cant find on Amazon where to send them a message.

CO_4X4 · May 22, 2024, 10:35pm

Go to your order and click product support, you’ll have to answer a few Amazon questions and it’ll send your message to them. They are in China so expect a couple days to get back to you.

Rich37804 · May 22, 2024, 10:42pm

The product support option isnt there. I just have Feedback, Leave a review and archive order.
I see that button on a few of my other orders.

CO_4X4 · May 22, 2024, 10:46pm

I’m not sure what to tell you. If I open a product I purchased from them, even a while back, I’ll see it on the order and on the product page:

You can also click on their name on the product and send them a message there.

Rich37804 · May 22, 2024, 11:11pm

I was looking in my order history. I see that now on the product page but I get this when clicking support.

Sir_Goodenough · May 24, 2024, 12:00am

Z2M has a tab where similar things that get imported can be set-up. Your parameter might show up here. I don’t have one so I don’t know. This is a water hose valve to turn a hose on and off, and it has a parameter setting for the odd countdown parameter. (for instance)

I don’t know if there are similar ZHA places for odd settings.

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tgoulden · May 28, 2024, 6:40pm

I am having the same issue. I use these to turn on stair lights and the delay is so long that I am half way up/down before the light comes on. It would be nice if HA had a roll-back feature for firmware updates. I don’t see a way to change settings in HA to fix this.

Rich37804 · May 28, 2024, 8:17pm

Im going to order another zigbee coordinator so I can get Z2mqtt up and running just so I can see if there are any adjustments possible there. I was hoping someone already running it would chime in.

aredon · June 1, 2024, 5:15pm

So I noticed this also and yet another firmware update seems to have pushed the update period to 0 seconds with a 4 second recovery (per their documentation). I would guess this went to nil somehow with the update.

If the value set 15，state from detected to clear needs (15+4)sec.The motion sensor has a detection time of 4 seconds, from the end of the detection time, after which it starts to count 15 seconds

I located their github here: GitHub - thirdreality/homeassistant

According to the readme there is supposed to be a few clusters in ZHA that allow for configuration:

github.com

thirdreality/homeassistant/blob/71cd66bb92905bacd8cebc7d1619bcb34b1ea55e/ZHA/README_MOTION.md

# Instructions on ThirdReality Motion Sensor Private Cluster in Home Assistant ZHA

#
## 1.ZHA Configuration

1）Create a Folder for Local Code Files:
a. Navigate to the /config directory.
b. Create a new folder with a name(e.g., thirdreality_quirks). This folder will store the local code files.

2）Place the motion.py File:
a. Use the Samba share tool to transfer the motion.py file into the newly created folder.

3）Edit the configuration.yaml File(as shown in the boxed area):

![config_configuration](assets/motion/1.png)

4）Restart Home Assistant:
a. Restart Home Assistant to apply the configuration changes.

## 2.Operating Devices（detected_to_undetected_delay）(The device is reset, and all private property Settings are restored to default values)

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The main point of interest is here, which doesn’t seem to exist so far as I can tell:

Even upon activating the quirks (which maybe I did wrong somehow?) these clusters do not appear in ZHA. I have not found how to configure this but have opened an issue on their github that seems to have gotten no attention. They are actively pushing commits though.

aredon · June 1, 2024, 5:23pm

It would be super chill if everyone having this issue would join me on their github where my issue is posted. Though to be honest I don’t know if they are paying attention.

Rich37804 · June 1, 2024, 10:20pm

I also just left a 2 star review on Amazon. Maybe that will get some attention…

aredon · June 2, 2024, 11:44am

I take it you cant see this cluster either?

Rich37804 · June 2, 2024, 2:04pm

I havent had the time to test. Probably will today. I think for users that just want to plug and play, these latest firmware releases make these unusable.

aredon · June 2, 2024, 7:32pm

Oh I don’t agree with that really. If anything shorter durations are more flexible they just don’t preserve battery life all that well. I don’t consider this update to be world shattering - just annoying.

Just add a duration to any triggers related to the motion sensor switching on (I’ve done 26 seconds on mine to make it match the 30s of my other sensors).