Voice control, Whisper, Piper, Rhasspy... what to do, mindmelt!

I am stuck, a month or so ago I bought an rather expensive conference speaker to start with Rhasspy, saw some really promising things going on on voice controlling locally.
But now I see there is a new kid in town Whisper/Piper Wyoming protocol, did I buy my conference speaker too early, or will it be supported later on in the new route or is rhasspy dead or well I see talk of piper in rhasspy too and also wyoming protocol.
I can not see the light in this can someone share their thoughts, and help me and probably others too, please.
And I hope for the return time for purchases has already ended, that I am not stuck with an overly expensive conference speaker.

Plus I rather stay of the web with my installation, not the HA cloud either feel there is way to much going wrong with all sites that are hacked so easily, there are always kids that dream code that are way smarter than so many site administrator who does it for a job :slight_smile:

Plus I still use Raspberries, not overly strong mini PC

Did post did earlier but do not see it in any other topic so I post it here for I hope can be helpfull for others too!

I am stuck, a month or so ago I bought an rather expensive conference speaker to start with Rhasspy, saw some really promising things going on on voice controlling locally.
But now I see there is a new kid in town Whisper/Piper Wyoming protocol, did I buy my conference speaker too early, or will it be supported later on in the new route or is rhasspy dead or well I see talk of piper in rhasspy too and also wyoming protocol.
I can not see the light in this can someone share their thoughts, and help me and probably others too, please.
And I hope for the return time for purchases has already ended, that I am not stuck with an overly expensive conference speaker.

Plus I rather stay of the web with my installation, not the HA cloud either feel there is way to much going wrong with all sites that are hacked so easily, there are always kids that dream code that are way smarter than so many site administrator who does it for a job :slight_smile:

Plus I still use Raspberries, not overly strong mini PC

Do not create duplicate posts. Merged.

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Hi Tom,

I did not want to, but somehow my original post never made it to the NEW section or anywhere??? SO yes I did repost it in two places for it did annoy me a bit that it was somehow, wiped, gone lost or whatever the reason for disappearing was. I am truly stuck seek help, and I think some other people do too, if not I like them to not waste money on expensive gear which become obsolete within a month or two!

Thank you for merging and I hope it will be found for thoughts or answering, or deeper insight in the route being followed into a successful voice assistant chapter of HA.

But Tom why do I not see this post in the NEW section, I can not find my writing/question anywhere how do other be able to answer this or find it???

The new section only shows you posts that you have not read. Click on the Latest section you will see your post in amongst other recent posts.

If you do not receive a reply in a day or so you can reply to your own post to move it up the list.

And a reply could be…

Rhasspy continue as a standalone “product” with integration to HA.
Mike mentioned that in the Year of the Voice - chapter 2, that was held the other day.
It came as a side note, so you have to listen for it.

If your speaker can run Rhasspy, then it suggest some kind of ability to be open for configuration and maybe firmware programming, so you might even be able to get to the Wyoming protocol too.
Time will tell.

Is your conference speaker an analogue phone?

If so you could use the Grandstream HT801 interface demonstrated in the livestream.

Conference speakers are like an array of 6 microphones and a speaker package is sealed no flashing of i guess a firmware dedicated to HA or PIPER WHSIPER, only factory firmware updates.
It has bluetooth and USB, but plan was as seen in the examples to connect it to a Pi running Rhasspy, and with the Rhasspy integration in HA.
But there comes the confusion, I take it Rhasspy is not being supported by WHISPER/Piper later on, or am I mistaken here? Which would make the speaker obsolete, although how to get voice commands into whisper/piper some sort of device would be needed for that too I guess.

The speaker does not have network capabilities, only via attaching it to a Pi or so.

Plug the speaker/mic into a device (e.g. laptop or pc) displaying home assistant and use the assist icon top right of the dashboard.

Sometimes it takes a minute or two. Also, did you refresh the browser?

That would probably work Tom, but where I want to go to is, decentralised, my HA is in my attic, but the conference speaker will be placed somewhere in the living room, well the first one if it is a success I would like to do that in several places, then a laptop or PC is no viable option so there comes the Pi around the corner as brains of the thing and well Rhasspy was around for sometime and I dared to take the plunge but now it is all changing the game think if I am right.
And that is why I posted the question about WHISPER/PIPER and Rhasspy being compatible or would they support each other or what is needed to get that running see!

You plug it into the device you are viewing HA on. Not the device you are running HA on.

As I understood the Wyoming protocol, then it was the one setting the standard for communication between the different code elements.
Rhasspy would also use these in the future, so it will all be integrated.

Hi, I am also interested in this general topic. I already have a Rhasspy setup with multiple satellites. I have also experimented with Rhasspy 3 using Whisper and Piper and it works great (although at the moment it doesn’t have a web UI, but if you follow the instructions for the dev preview it’s not that hard to set up). However, I like the ability to run Rhasspy on a separate machine since I want to run “larger” versions of Whisper and Piper than can run on my Home Assistant machine (a HA Yellow, which is a Rasp Pi).

I actually HAVE gotten things to work with HA but only if I disable the OpenAI integration.

See also Support Rhasspy 3 as a Voice Assistant, including remote instances, which is not quite a duplicate of this one, being more specific.

How did you get it to run on multiple satellites, is there a easy to follow cookbook :slight_smile: