Why are people asking the same questions over and over again? (Or the Regulars' Chatroom) šŸ¤·

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Iā€™ll give it a start but I was initially thinking just the basics & that we see often. I hope to have a draft soon.

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After consultation with contributors, Iā€™ve removed the Mushroom Cards entry from the cookbook index. Third-party integrations and cards are a very deep rabbit holeā€¦ :laughing:

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Considering the way this thread has turned, how about someone moves it to the Social tag instead of Configuration?

Iā€™d love there to be something similar to the mods thread somewhere above, maybe restricted to Regulars and Experts, but Iā€™m not sure if thatā€™s actually possible with Discord.

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And perhaps change the subject line.

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Iā€™m half tempted to propose an ā€˜Anti-Socialā€™ tag, but it might be a bit lonely there.

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How about this one for the cookbook? Advanced section?

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Iā€™d think thatā€™s out of scope given itā€™s not specific to HA, but Iā€™ll defer to the masses.

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Tried to read that post a few times. By the second paragraph my eyes would glaze over & Iā€™d just scroll down to the bottom or close the tab.

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(Or the Regularsā€™ Chatroom)

Ughā€¦ yaā€™ll are going to get me back on Discord again with crap like that. lmao

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Since this thread has moved to social Iā€™ve started a new Cookbook Discussion thread. :grin:

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I tweaked the title yesterday before reading this as a lark, fyiā€¦

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What about a Blueprints section in the Cookbook and posts regarding the HA commands and such, not any specific authors blueprint problem.

The one I just put in automation should go there and I have something else I just found, could turn that one into a community guide and index it.

Using action inputs in automations.

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I think Blueprints should be included, but need vetted in some way first. Maybe a submission channel as a buffer, then publication?

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I donā€™t (and not just because I donā€™t use them).

Itā€™s an educational reference.

People learn nothing from using blueprints.

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So a :rabbit: hole :laughing:

I always break down the blueprint, but thatā€™s probably not the norm. I can see your argument.

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People using them learn nothing, but they are targeted at that audience to use not learn from. Those wikiā€™s are not written for them, rather for people writing BPs.

Someone using a BP could care less about a selector, for instance, but someone writing one does.

And not using them is like saying you wonā€™t use class libraries because you didnā€™t write it so you didnā€™t learn anything by just using them.

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I donā€™t use them because I donā€™t need to. I can easily and quickly write what I need myself tailored for my needs.

Nothing like class libraries.

Thatā€™s not the point.

If you want to include how to write blueprints thatā€™s fine.

But do not include a useful list of blueprints, that has no place in this (IMO).

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The ancillary addons/blueprints/custom cards, etcā€¦will still need to addressed in some respect.

No matter how solid the Cookbook is, folks we still push the limits on HA manipulation(a good thing) In fact it may generate additional customization questions as folks get educated. The majority of people attracted to HA are inquisitive and that will 100% generate requests for assistance beyond the Cookbook.

Whether we agree or disagree on whatā€™s included, a clear line will need to be drawn in the sand.

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I think it would be good to be explicit about what is excluded.

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Yes, that was my long winded point! :laughing:

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