stefsims
October 24, 2022, 7:51am
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I switched from deConz to ZHA and found that many of my zigbee devices was not supported.
Nothing has happened since!
Hedda
October 24, 2022, 8:38am
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FYI, this is really asking the same as this other post even though it does not specifically mention ZGP:
âFriends of Hueâ are battery-less ZGP (Zigbee green power) wall switches that are very popular in Europe. They work with a hue bridge as well as deConz but not with ZHA.
Thereâs an open issue in zigpy for two and a half years.
If HA wants to become a truly mass appeal solution lacking support like this is not cool.
You can submit a symbolic vote here to show interest â https://community.home-assistant.io/t/wth-doesn-t-zha-support-friends-of-hue-buttons-yet/472645
But in the end, Home Assistant need more volunteering Python developer(s) with interest in low-level Zigbee support to get that existing code pull request and open a new code pull request for the zigpy library (ZHA dependency) or create new code that is acceptable for merger:
https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy/pull/656
zigpy:dev â jeedom:dev
opened 07:17PM - 01 Feb 21 UTC
You might have many Zigbee Green Power (ZGP) devices, but statistically there are not many different ZGP devices on the market that are actually different products, (as most actually contain the same type of ZGP module made by EnOcean), however those available a relatively popular because of the âFriend of Hueâ series as well as a few Philips Hue branded products that use the ZGP technology:
https://github.com/zigpy/zigpy/issues/341
opened 08:25AM - 30 Mar 20 UTC
Please add support for Zigbee Green Power specification (ZGP clusters/device sta⌠ndard subset) in zigpy and its radio libraries.
If the zigpy library should be fully compliant with Zigbee 3.0 it would at least have to support ZGP v2, and if would allow using zigpy as a Zigbee Router (ZR) device then it would need to at a minimum include ZGPB/GPB (Zigbee Green Proxy Basic) support.
**Update!** Non-developers, please see Home Assistant's community feature request for general or off-topic discussions that are not directly constructive for the development -> https://community.home-assistant.io/t/zha-integration-to-get-full-support-for-zgp-zigbee-green-power-devices/277149
Summery; ZGP (Zigbee Green Power), a.k.a. "Zigbee GreenPower", is a subset feature of Zigbee that allows for extreme low-power and energy-harvesting technology to be used directly with the Zigbee stack. Using Zigbee Green Power, certain home automation wireless devices (end devices) may be powered by either different self-powered energy harvesting solutions or switches and sensors that can operate for up to a decade on a single battery coin-cell battery. Energy harvesting technology enables the maintenance-free battery-less devices (end devices) such as switches and remotes operating in a Zigbee network.
Zigbee Green Power is compatible with any Zigbee 3.0 device, but not all Zigbee 3.0 products are certified as Green Power Combo. Zigbee Green Power V2 is included as a subset in the Zigbee 3.0 specification (ZB3), while Zigbee Green Power V1 Green Power was a subset of an earlier Zigbee PRO standard.
**Basic terms:**
* ZGPD/GPD - Zigbee Green Power Device - a common Green Power device, which send specific Green Power packets (GPDF - Green Power Data Frames)
* ZGPS/GPS - Zigbee Green Power Sink - a Green Power device, which translates and transfers Green Power cluster commands to the relevant endoint
* ZGPB/GPB - Zigbee Green Proxy Basic - a Green Power device, which receives Green Power packets (GPDFs) and transmits Green Power Cluster commands; all Zigbee 3.0 routing devices must implement this
* GPCB - Green Power Combo Basic - Zigbee Green Power Combo Basic device includes two roles: Green Power Proxy and Green Power Sink.
"_During commissioning ZGPD reports his device ID. ZGPS should check if there are appropriate local endpoints, which can communicate with such ZGPD device ID. This process is called ZGPS functionality matching. Matching table declares for each supported ZGPD device ID there are requirements to local endpoint in order to ZGPS functionality matching to succeed._"
https://csa-iot.org/all-solutions/green-power/
https://csa-iot.org/all-solutions/green-power/green-power-faq/
https://zigbeealliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Green-Power-White-Paper.pdf
https://csa-iot.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/docs-14-0563-18-batt-Green-Power-Basic-specification-v1.1.1.pdf
https://zigbeealliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/docs-09-5499-26-batt-zigbee-green-power-specification.pdf
ZGP (Zigbee Green Power) technology for battery-less self-powered or energy-harvesting devices. ZGP specification is a part of the official Zigbee 3.0 standard specifications and is supported by modern Zigbee Coordinator adapters (at least Texas Instruments and Silicon Labs). ZGP based devices are something also referred to as Green Power Device (GPD) or Green Power Devices (GPDs).
http://software-dl.ti.com/simplelink/esd/simplelink_cc26x2_sdk/2.30.00.34/exports/docs/zstack/html/zigbee/gpd_application_overview.html
https://www.ti.com/lit/an/swra615a/swra615a.pdf
https://www.silabs.com/documents/public/user-guides/ug103-15-green-power-fundamentals.pdf
https://www.silabs.com/documents/public/user-guides/ug392-using-sl-green-power-with-ezp.pdf
https://developer.nordicsemi.com/nRF_Connect_SDK/doc/zboss/3.8.0.1/group__zgp__api.html
https://infocenter.nordicsemi.com/pdf/15-02016-010-GP_Errata_for_GP_Basic_PICS_DSR_Nordic.pdf
https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/user-guide/JN-UG-3095.pdf
And devices:
https://www.assets.signify.com/is/content/Signify/Assets/philips-lighting/global/20201014-uid8480-zigbee-green-power-switch.pdf
https://www.lighting.philips.com/api/assets/v1/file/PhilipsLighting/content/0c34886812f2480d87b7ac5401062bec/UID8470_SpSh_20200415_Fin.pdf
https://www.qorvo.com/resources/d/qorvo-zigbee-green-power-multi-sensor-comparison-to-battery-powered-zigbee-devices-white-paper
The reason for the request is that you can already buy many Zigbee Green Power (ZGP) enabled switches/remotes made for home automation, and they are in fact very popular since Philips Hue has several ZGP devices in several pf their product series/lineups.
According to the Zigbee Cluster Library Specification revision 7 (ZCL7), every Zigbee 3.0 device with routing capabilities (router or coordinator) must implement Green Power Basic Proxy (GPBP) v1.1.1 functionality for forwarding compatibility to be granted Zigbee 3.0 Certification in order to further support Zigbee Green Power capabilities.
Should be noted that a Zigbee coordinator can not normally connect directly to those Zigbee Green Power enabled switches/remotes as you need to bind them to a mains-powered device like a Zigbee lightbulb or a relay.
https://www.fierceelectronics.com/iot-wireless/zigbee-r-3-0-power-green
https://www.owon-smart.com/news/what-is-zigbee-green-power/
The requirements to run a Zigbee Green Power is found in the document from Texas Instruments:
See [zigbee-herdsman PR #92](https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-herdsman/pull/92) for proof-of-concept as ZGP is already supported in zigbee-herdsman / Zigbee2mqtt (Z2M) projects:
- https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee-herdsman/pull/92
- https://github.com/Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt.io/blob/develop/docs/devices/GreenPower_On_Off_Switch.md
Most common examples of Zigbee Green Power devices for home automation are rocker wall switches. Certified ZGP products:
- https://zigbeealliance.org/zigbee_products/?product_type=certified_product&se=green+power
- https://zigbeealliance.org/news_and_articles/alliance-augments-its-green-power-program/
Most popular are devices based on Zigbee 3.0 pre-certified PTM215ZE/PTM215Z and PTM216Z modules from EnOcean:
- https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/PTM_215ZE.html
- https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/PTM_215Z.html
- https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/devices/PTM_216Z.html
EnOcean PTM215ZE/PTM215Z and PTM216Z modules use energy converter for motion energy harvesting for battery-less operation that is sold to OEM/ODM radio modules which create products:
- [EnOcean self-powered Zigbee product series and modules for OEM](https://www.enocean.com/en/products/enocean_modules_24ghz/)
- [EnOcean Easyfit Single / Double Rocker Wall Switch for Zigbee - EWSSZ / EWSDZ] (based on EnOcean PTM 215ZE)(https://www.enocean.com/en/products/enocean_modules_24ghz/easyfit-single-double-rocker-wall-switch-for-zigbee-ewssz-ewsdz/)
- [EnOcean Easyfit Single / Double Rocker Wall Switch for Zigbee - EWSSZG / EWSDZG] (based on EnOcean PTM 215ZE)(https://www.enocean.com/en/products/enocean_modules_24ghz/easyfit-single-double-rocker-wall-switch-for-zigbee-ewsszg-ewsdzg/)
- [EnOcean PTM 215ZE / PTM 215Z (PTM215ZE/PTM215Z) module](https://www.enocean.com/en/products/enocean_modules_24ghz/ptm-215ze/)
- [EnOcean PTM 216Z (PTM216Z) module](https://www.enocean.com/en/products/enocean_modules_24ghz/ptm-216z/)
- [EnOcean PTM 536Z (PTM536Z) Transmitter module with enhanced security features](https://www.enocean.com/en/products/enocean_modules_24ghz/ptm-536z/)
- [EnOcean PTM 535ZB (PTM535ZB) Transmitter module with enhanced security features with both ZGP and BLE radio](https://www.enocean.com/en/products/enocean_modules_24ghz/ptm-535z/)
- [EnOcean PTM 535Z (PTM 535Z) Transmitter module with enhanced security features](https://www.enocean.com/en/products/enocean_modules_24ghz/ptm-535z/)
- [EnOceanECO 200 (ECO200) Energy converter for motion energy harvesting](https://www.enocean.com/en/products/enocean_modules_24ghz/eco-200/)
- [EnOcean 2 click Clickboard from MikroElektronika for TCM 515Z (TCM515Z)](https://www.enocean.com/en/products/enocean_modules_24ghz/enocean-2-click/)
- [EnOcean TCM 515Z (TCM515Z) Transceiver module for programmable system components](https://www.enocean.com/en/products/enocean_modules_24ghz/tcm-515z/)
Friends of Hue partnership switches from ABB (Sweden), Illumra (USA), Kichler (USA), MAKRIS by Imoon (Italy), Vimar (Italy), Busch-Jaeger (Germany), Senic (Germany), Niko (Belgium), Sunricher (Hong Kong), Koizumi (Japan), Legrand (France), and John Lewis (UK) which I believe all use either the older EnOcean PTM 215ZE module or the newer EnOcean PTM 216Z module.
- https://zigbeealliance.org/zigbee_products/ptm215z-foh/
- https://www.signify.com/global/our-company/news/press-releases/2018/20180830-new-switch-and-new-luminaire-partners-offer-more-choice-in-design-and-control-of-your-philips-hue-smart-lights
- https://community.smartthings.com/t/theyre-here-new-green-energy-battery-free-wall-switches-for-hue-bridge-illumra-busch-jaeger-etc/135280
- https://www.docs.lighting.philips.com/en_gb/oem/download/xitanium/SCP_PHIL_170248_PMT215Z_table_A03.pdf
- https://www.docs.lighting.philips.com/en_gb/oem/download/connected-lighting-solutions/switch-commissioning-weblink1.pdf
Phoscon (dresden elektronik) posted these instructions for paring Friends of Hue switches with their deCONZ solution here:
- https://phoscon.de/en/support#pairing-friends-of-hue-switch
Examples Philips Hue compatible ZGP switches:
- [Philips Hue Click](https://runlesswire.com/click_philips_hue/) - Same as Philips Hue Tap wall-switch below?
- [Philips Hue Tap (Wall Switch version)](https://www.cnet.com/news/this-boring-switch-might-be-the-best-philips-hue-gadget-yet/#ftag%3DCAD590a51e)
- [Philips Hue Tap Switch (Remote Control version) Model 9290011152X](https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Philips_9290011152X.html)
- [Philips UID8450 single-rocker switch (UID8450/10) and UID8460 double-rocker switch (UID8460/10)](https://www.lighting.philips.com/api/assets/v1/file/content/4bbf1e4388e44f3aa8e0a9e00123308d/UID8450-UID8460_SpSh_20190125_Fin.pdf) ZigBee Green Power switch and scene selector
- [ABB smart light switch for âFriends of Hueâ](https://new.abb.com/low-voltage/products/residential-product/friends-of-hue-smart-switch)
- [Illumra ZBT-S1AWH (single rocker, white) for âFriends of Hueâ](http://illumra.com/products/wireless-light-switches/zigbee-switch)
- [Niko Friend of Hue Smart Switch (Niko 91004)](https://www.niko.eu/en/our-products/switches-and-sockets/friends-of-hue) (based on EnOcean PTM 215Z)
- NodOn - Philips Hue Battery-less switch (CWS-4-1-01_HUE)
- https://nodon.fr/en/nodon/philips-hue-battery-less-switch/
- Vimar - Friends of Hue RF Switch (Vimar 03906)
- Feller 4120.2.S.FMI.61
- https://online-katalog.feller.ch/kat_details.php?fnr=4120.2.S.FMI.61
- Senic GIRA Friends of Hue Switch
- https://www.senic.com/products/friends-of-hue-smart-switch
- [Senic GIRA Friends of Hue Outdoor Switch](https://www.senic.com/friends-of-hue-outdoor-switch)
- https://zigbee.blakadder.com/Senic_100119.html
- Sunricher Kinetic Switch 4 (SR-ZGP2801K4-FOH)
- Sunricher Battery Switch (SR-ZGP2801K4-FOH-E)
- [LED TRADING Dimmer Switch](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Philips-Friends-flush-mounted-surface-mounted-version/dp/B08GKP7HPJ)
- [LED TRADING Zigbee Push Button Coupler](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Philips-Friends-flush-mounted-surface-mounted-version/dp/B08K3C44J4) ( LED-Trading 9125)
- Legrand Batteryless Switches
- https://zigbeealliance.org/zigbee_products/batteryless-2-on-off-switch-green-power/
- https://zigbeealliance.org/zigbee_products/batteryless-2-toggles-switch-green-power/
- https://zigbeealliance.org/zigbee_products/batteryless-toggle-switch-green-power/
- https://zigbeealliance.org/zigbee_products/batteryless-shutter-switch-green-power-2/
- https://zigbeealliance.org/zigbee_products/batteryless-on-off-switch-green-power/
- Trio2sys PLANA - COMPATIBLE ENOCEAN ZIGBEE GREEN POWER COMPLETE SWITCH 2 KEYS
- https://www.trio2sys.fr/index.php/en/products/transmitters/17
- Busch-Jaeger - Friends of Hue light switch
- https://www.busch-jaeger.de/produkt/friends-of-hue
Technical and developer documentation:
- https://zigbeealliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Green-Power-White-Paper.pdf
- https://www.silabs.com/community/wireless/zigbee-and-thread/knowledge-base.entry.html/2020/02/13/zigbee_green_power-fKk4
- https://www.silabs.com/documents/public/user-guides/ug103-15-green-power-fundamentals.pdf
- https://www.silabs.com/documents/public/user-guides/ug392-using-sl-green-power-with-ezp.pdf
- https://www.nxp.com/docs/en/user-guide/JN-UG-3095.pdf
- https://training.ti.com/zigbee-green-power-enable-battery-less-devices
- https://www.qorvo.com/resources/d/qorvo-zigbee-green-power-multi-sensor-comparison-to-battery-powered-zigbee-devices-white-paper
PS: If an end-user of Home Assistant wants to use ZGP (Zigbee Green Power) then they can not use the [ZHA integration](https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/zha), and instead they as a workaround need to look at third-party Zigbee gateway/bridge/hub solutions that support ZGP, such as example Zigbee2MQTT, deCONZ/Phoscon, or commercial Zigbee gateways/bridges/hubs such as the Philips Hue Hub.
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