2022.11: A heck of a release!

[Mariusthvdb (Marius)]

Check out New interactive history explorer custom card - #352 by HeyImAlex

For some serious more-info graph replacement development

The main history-explorer card is great. This now feeds that to the more-info!
@HeyImAlex thx!

[stevieb12345]

I’m having the same problem.

[e8link (Eric)]

I use the bond integration and HomeKit, with this update all of my ceiling fans disappeared in HomeKit. I restored back to 2022.10.5 and all of the ceiling fans are back.

[finity]

@parautenbach

included some hard numbers to prove performance was indeed better.

While I understand the desire for improving performance but what I don’t understand at all is the obsession with improving performance over loss of functionality.

I honestly don’t care if my pop up card takes a half second to load or 1 second to load if I can’t see the data I need that then requires me to take WAY more time opening up a history graph panel to look at the same data I used to be able to see in one click in a pop-up box.

[parautenbach (Pieter Rautenbach)]

Yeah, so for me personally the dashboard performance has never bothered me much. While I have a number of dashboards, automating as much as possible remains my focus and for that reason dashboards performance shouldn’t bother me.

A faster backend? Sure, I’ll order 2 of those. I appreciate the effort put into that over the past years and to improve the startup speed (a fringe benefit in my eyes) and loading/sequencing of integrations.

My call-out in the end was to highlight (initially) unsubstantiated claims — on all sides. I’m not saying it might not be true. Of course, there is still a subjective element too, based on expectations.

[petitpiton]

Good to see the Water consumption added to ‘Energy’ dashboard. Now I just need someone to develop an integration for the Grohe Sense Smart Guard water controller for HA!

[steve2020 (Steve)]

Thank you for this – I didn’t think to look there! I guess I’ve become accustomed to having each of the minor releases summarized on the main “new release page” as well. It seems odd to me that the summary isn’t up there.

[pedolsky]

Was similar for me. At some point I just put a link to this website in my frontend.

[Ildar_Gabdullin]

Info about 2022.11.1 (already installed) still absent in the blog…

[mstjerna (Michael)]

Grohe Sense (Ondus)

I have now a working solution plotting two example graphs. Now-7days, Now-30days. The data is verified and are exactly the same as the APP show. [NodeRed-nodes] NodeRed Export: [{"id":"09b7ca94d31ba1fa","type":"tab","label":"Testing","disabled":false,"info":"","env":[]},{"id":"149b6231ee1b3421","type":"grohe sense","z":"09b7ca94d31ba1fa","location":"8b9d43791e7b0de5","room":"kontor","appliance":"Vattenbrytare","devicetype":"103","description":"","x":650,"y":140,"wires":[["570382581d95c146",…

[stevemann (Stephen Mann (YAML-challenged))]

@bencorrado

Oral-B support!!!

Why?
Is this just too much smart stuff? What on Earth can an online toothbrush provide?

[bdraco (J. Nick Koston)]

Apparently people use it to shut off all the lights and lock the doors when the brush is activated around bedtime.

[bencorrado]

We already had the smart toothbrushes (we didn’t seek out the BT part, it was just included in a Costco bundle), and I am not sure I would have gone out of my way to get them. However, It is a sure fire way to know if I am heading to bed and start running routines that sometimes fail and I don’t want to get out of bed to fix. For instance locking the doors, sometimes the kids didn’t shut them completely so the lock fails to engage. I would not know that during my previous bedtime script until I was in bed and would have to get out of bed and adjust the door. Now that can happen while I am still up, but reliably about to go to bed.

I wish my kids brushes were Bluetooth, because if they have brushed is actually hard to figure out sometimes and I could make it into a game with smart lights to get to 2 minutes of brush time with the correct brushing zones!

[nickrout]

You could also say who needs the weather on a screen, when you can look out the window.

[arganto]

@arganto

I respect, if the developer, who has implemented this likes this personally and implemented it because of this. But please please give the user the choice to have this or the really useful raw view as before.

I wonder how many “votes” or likes of a message or dislikes of a single change or complains during beta etc is needed, that the core team who has decided and implemented because of own decisions reacts or responds or takes the user feedback into account (give the users the choice) instead of ignoring the feedback completely?

As in beta, this topic came up from a lot of people and as in beta, there is only one who argued, that the chance is great.

I’m very thankful for all the work of the team, but I really not like such inner circle changes without giving the user the choice to switch it off (again).

[jerrm]

I just installed 11 and have to agree the style and history graph changes are both a negative.

Material Design has always been a cancer, but I’ve learned to live with too many devs blindly and poorly following “standards” that amount to nothing more than the UI equivalent of hem length or tie width. Overall HA does pretty well with it but this wasn’t a good change.

The graphs are a true loss of functionality. If I drill down I almost always want to know when and how much. Now that info is no longer readily available.

[andras-tim (András Tim)]

Unfortunately, I have no information yet… I had no time yet for a (safe) upgrade.

[GSzabados (Gábor Szabados)]

Can someone remind me of the expected behaviour of an Automation’s Information/Related tab?

I can see that it is empty now, but I thought it should list the devices/entities used in the Automation which room it is added to etc.

I am not sure is it a bug or a feature.

[mekanics]

Copy of discussion from deconz official rhread

@mekanics

No deconz_event tied to device “My_button_name” found’

…when setting up triggers for My_automation and my comment later

@mekanics

Just an update, when checked the issue discussions, seems to be that reloading automations helps.

I restart my HAs and routers (4 routers in a mesh) automatically every morning to avoid stability issues typical for consumer grade stuff.

I just added an automation which calls service automation.reload soon after the restart.

Today I noticed this method does not work anymore. Reloading automations even manually by button press in Developer Tools/ YAML configuration reloading does not seem to work. It looks like it flashes the button to green so smoothly, it makes me to think is it actually doing anything anymore?

This error does not happen during every restart, so I cannot tell exactly, when there was a change, but I updated to latest core 2022.11 just few days ago

Now, this probably related to Smarter reloading of automation & scripts introduced in this version.

The problem is, that they are not going to do anything to this issue on deconz side, as in my understanding it is more general loading time issue, and the result of this error is, that ALL DECONZ BUTTONS ARE UNRESPONSIVE, e.g. many of my lights, and leaving house to that condition when I’m away is not an option.

I need something to reload these deconz related automations to replace the functionality lost in the update, is there any?

EDIT: There are other reasons to reload automations than jus a change in it, as you can see from above.

Basically, we need a Developer Tools/ YAML configuration reloading/ Reload Automations, which actually does what it’s name says.

And especially wee need a service Automation: Reload , which actually reloads automations.