A system run by one of the main Admins is not the real world. Your system is set up by someone who knows all the inner workings of the code.
The best thing would be if you go to the home of a random user and install the beta there - and you won’t be allowed to leave until it works for them too. Sounds like a good format for a TV show or YouTube channel actually 
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It is what the message you were replying to was about. Also the font sizes will very likely change in next month’s release.
Like many others on the beta testing team I certainly don’t know anything about the inner workings of the HA source. Yet I run the beta on my production system too. For the same reason. To test it.
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My message wasn’t a aimed at all beta testers, it was a reply to Frenck, who I assume does know more than 99.9% of users about the inner workings of the code.
Beta testers are great, thank all of you! I’m thinking about joining that team actually. Not sure how I want to set that up though. I’m running in a VM so maybe separate snapshots/clones would work best? What happens to my history if I run a beta for two days and then decide whatever issue I met can’t be tolerated anymore and I roll back?
Please please please please please please
MAKE THE OLD VERSION OF THE THERMOSTAT AVAILABLE AGAIN!
If there is no intention to modify the new one!!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!
There is a feature request for it. Please vote!
The count is 74 at the moment!
You’ve already been told there is intention to do this. There is no need to keep repeating yourself.
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I’d imagine someone with the right skill set could put it up in HACS as a custom card. Be patient or do it yourself.
Not sure where this feedback should go.
I love the new “beautiful new login page” however I feel the escape key should do the same behaviour as clicking previous once a user has been clicked to get back to the user selection (Other login options has a previous that would benefit the same)
I can’t see myself using this login screen much but this felt like intuitive behaviour to me the first time I tested to me.
Frankly I am not sure whether the target or the actual temp should be the emphasis.
Surely a thermostat’s main purpose is to allow you to set your desired room temp. Therefore the emphasis on target is right. It is not a thermometer.
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Agreed. I don’t have an A/C system with a digital display in my current house but my old house did, and the display was always the set/desired temp.
I vote for this too. The actual temperature should be the important one, like before. This is also how the real thermostat is showing things. (i.e. bosch CT200). Please change this or at least make it configurable. For the rest, very nice card.
This is how your thermostat shows things. Mine on the other hand:
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Read carefully. I said IF there is no intention. I didn’t say BECAUSE there is no intention.
Furthermore I will try to keep it on the front burner until it’s resolved satisfactory
You already know there is an intention to look at this. There is no “if”. We heard you the first time. There is no reason to keep spamming this topic with your complaints.
Hence we have to camps and only one option. Would it not be nice to have both options.
( as might noticed by now I really liked to old classic version of the thermostat 
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True. I will stop but I noticed that in the latest release there was no change so I brought it back to the attention!
Simple Thermostat shows the set point as the bigger of the two
Thermostat card shows the target only when clicked on (although it is around the edge)
Better Thermostat is configurable to show actual or target.
Dark Thermostat shows actual
and mini climate card gives equal prominence
So there is no right answer, but there is plenty of choice
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I have searched for the Better Thermostat but I couldn’t find it. Where is it, in HACs or somewhere in GITHUB? I like that one!
It is in HACS on my system, but I have a number of extra repos added in.
Wait up, the repo says HACS Default.
One more thing, I just installed it, and it in fact shows target in the bigger number.
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