Do note itâs limited by resolution. If only 3 columns fit, it will show 3 columns. The columns setting is a maximum number of columns
Itâs the max number of sections shown side by side , not the columns inside a section.
(Columns in a view)
Definitely appreciate adding an option to customize grid-gap. As of now the default grid gap is squishing items too much on a 7-inch tablet dashboard where I have a two column layout. I tried to migrate from a grid layout to sections and while sections makes things so much easier to manage, the loss of readability on a 7 inch screen is a blocker.
Agree, Creating a âDefaultâ (ultra)wide-grid-gap, to satisfy a few, is definitely not a good approach.
People can add paddingâs to most Cards. And they do already, both padding and margins, to create the Views/Cards to fit their taste and requirements/visibility depending upon Devices and specific usability case.
So there is in my opinion absolutely no reason, other than trying to create a âBrand Look & Tasteâ
All major Brands, whether Microsoft, Google, Apple etc. etc.have âtried and followedâ , and will continuing changing their âBrand Look & Tasteâ as time/opinions/influences changes
What ever âDefault Lookâ the team behind HA-Frontend want/like now and in the future, doesnât bothers me, i couldnât care less, And i doubt they can âinfluence meâ, if thatâs the purpose.
In fact, when i initially was trilled about the new sections-view, i as you discovered fast the the huge-gap was a âShow Stopperâ , so i stopped âtestingâ as my Grid Layout Views works fine, but with Sections i have issues on Vertical Wall Tablet Dashboard, with 2 columns, beside it looks terrible on laptop etc
PS: Yes , im also not a fan of they ways various Phone Apps have changed just the past 5years, one see less and less, on the screen ( Very bad âvisibilityâ / overview(usability) !, one have to scroll and therefore looses âoverviewâ.
LOL , i think weâre in the middle of the " Scroll " generation phase
Is there any way to increase the number of columns for section view? I have a wide screen touchscreen that could use more than 4 columns but right now the section view starts to stack any more than 4 columns.
I heard what youâre saying, but Iâm afraid youâre jumping to conclusions way too soon.
Yes, there will be a new setting in the next version coming next week.
Sorry, im just being stubborn
PS: I did actually get the impression in your latest answer to me, that you were considered it, and that you would implement some âoptionâ , just needed to get my thoughts out of my head, no offence
Thank you! Yeah I want to agree with you but it was very hard to when you put it like that.
Yeah, it wasnât mend to âcatch likesâ, but i could have phrased it better, and mention that the âoptionâ most likely was on the way.
I guess i got âcaught in the crossfireâ of the bunch of same repeatedly requests/questions in here, annoyed by the fact that many people donât read, before they post. And the fact that i last week did a new attempt to get 1 of my other Dashboards âalignedâ in a Section-Dashboard, but failed (again) doo to my âstubbornnessâ and willingness to compromise, upon the work/design iâve already made, and the ideas i have.
I will ofcause give Sections another âgoâ , as iâve already have excluded/minimized the use of many custom:cards. ( And my âdesignâ opinions do also change over time ! )
Worse thing that can happen, is when any of my House/Garden renovating projects takes more than +3 years , family and friends have learned not to ask, and just wait for the âoutcomeâ, which doo to my stubborn/perfectionism always ends up âlike it was mend to be !â (noone can see that iâve change mind/direction 10 times)
How? How can you modify the sizes of the columns, both at a section level and sub-section (or individual col)? It seems to require YAML, not via the UI, yes?
Yes, and nested cards.
I.E if you take my middle-column, you could divide first(header) section into i.e 2 âsubsectionâ (maybe eventually 4)
And the below graph is 1 whole-width section
Size goes 2 ways horizontal and vertical, so itâs kind of an âopenâ question you ask.
The âheaderâ in column 1 & 3, could be 2-3 sections(wide), depends upon how much flexibility will be implemented eventually
As most you see in this Dashboard is Custom:button-cards, one have the options to set height/width, so the âsectionâ to the left of the graph(in column 1) , could be 2 whole width sections (i choosed to just copy-pasted all in 1 section) But it is(was) actually 2x5 custom:buttons, in a horizontal-stack , in a vertical-stack
As this was my first attempt, i just copied parts of what i had from another Dashboard , and tried to adapt it , Had to fiddle some with margins/padding, as this new Dashboards have some hard coded settings as well as most cards have.
As different Devices have different sized âviewportâ and resolution , i suggest you get use to Yaml and CSS, well you will eventually
PS: Where as grids is defined in columns / rows, it can also be defined with a Max: and/or Min:
A Card is 1 unit, and can be defined in PX width/height or a Max-size in PX ( most cards have this hard coded, in some ways )
As a common âviewportâ has a certain amount of horizontal pixels, many cards have a max-width of i.e 430-530 px ( meaning can be less )
So if you have a high-resolution wide-screen, you would most likely get 4 columns (current max value) , that is if the cards is âcodedâ with a fixed max-width in px, and/or the grid-columns-width is not set/fixed in i.e %
As the Native Section/Grid system, needs to âadaptâ to a huge variations of viewports & resolutions ( phones/touchpads-horizontal/vertical ) etc. etc. And still retain usability , there quite often need to be a âmin/max-sizeâ in, somewhere !, which also donât distort the cards.
So if you i.e wantâs small/narrow icons/button ( in touchpad-view ), in first column, you somehow need the option to set column-width, in either px, or % ⌠So You see where this is getting ?
How would you âcombineâ a 40px column, with 2 auto-sized %, when you flip the touchpad, or view it on your phone ? Span over 2 columns is another âadvanceâ setting, the more you add the more complex, the more can go wrong, the more complains. ( Itâs doable if you know your devices and know about CSS-Grid ) And CSS in common!.
However a Default âlayoutâ out of the box, which should work âin all weatherâ , and even for a ânovice/new userâ is a hard task to overcome, and it will require some âlimitationsâ.
And through a UI editor ? That would involved quite some extensive UI-Editor capabilities, and in terms user-capabilities/knowledge of a âcomplex UI editorâ ( Not to mention Usage )
I love the new modern design, but have a few issues. One, Iâd like to be able to set the size of each section. I.e. if I want a wider section on top going all the way accross, then have all the otherâs under it in 4 colums, or if i want a colum to be 2 columns wide because there is a lot of items in it, then iâd have 2 other columns and under that go back to 4 and so on.
And one of my items is long with sensors and graphs, and that keeps the second row of items ALL THE WAY to the bottom making it useless. Iâd like the next colum to be up to the bottom of the one under it⌠to it all fits together.
This new view is great and special thanks for adding sections count option - things can now fit on a regular tablet screen.
I am missing couple other things to move away from the less usable âmansoryâ:
- Really need 4 tiles in a row, have to work around it with other card types.
- Need a nice tile to name sub-sections, using smth else now.
Here is a preview (third section - work in progress):
For the sub-sections titles , I now use the mushroom title card but only use the second line âŚ
Thatâs the one I am using too, just the first line. Both first and second line are aligned a bit weirdly (vertical alignment) and I didnât find a way to fix it.
I would love to be able to control the width if the section. So i can have one hard expand the entire width so it doesnât look like a skinny section on a tablet etc.
Iâm surprised thereâs not much talk about this particular screenshot - is this from a dev build and a sneak peak of what to expect later in the year?
If so Iâm really excited - yes please to All The Cards Lining Up and an official implementation of the Mushroom Chip cardsâŚ!
Thatâs from a current release
For what reason(s) ?
Now, Paul ( TheAuthor ) can publish features/fixes whenever ! , beside using this as âtest-casesâ , for implementations in Tileâs and whatever comes in Native UI