Australia - Electrically Certified Hardware

I had this idea but never progressed it. And there’s some smaller Shelly’s these days too (not sure if they’re certified).

I know, although I did not at the time of purchase. The ones which failed, and that was enough to never buy again (I documented most of it in the Athom plug thread), at least failed in a non dangerous manner, so I’ve left the remaining ones in service until I need to replace, or decide not to bother replacing.

Yeah but unfortunately while a lot of us are likely quite capable of doing the wiring, we are not permitted to.

I did buy a couple of Shellys to go into the laundry GPOs when the laundry renovation was done but the sparky forgot and the cost of a return trip isn’t worth it.

That said, I’m really trying to avoid more Wi-Fi devices, would prefer to stick with Zigbee.

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Not fine from a legal sense though. This is where the issue of insurance liability comes in to play in the event of a fire etc.

Actually the red is unswitched active and the white is the switched active. White is definitely not neutral. (this is why electricians should be used!)

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Red is UN-switched active. ie: Always live.

In Australia we only use the brown, blue, green/yellow for appliance leads / extension leads etc. House / building wiring is still all red, black green/yellow.

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You should not be using blue and brown for DC. This could confuse someone into thinking it is AC.

Please just stop doing your own electrical work and get a professional.

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I second this.
Given this thread is supposed to be about ‘certified’ hardware that should include ‘certified’ (read legal) installation.
I really worry when I read comments like that

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I got an email invitation to pre-order ESP32-C3 AU Plug for ESPHome.

Their yaml says board: esp32-c3-devkitm-1, flash_size: 4MB, variant: ESP32C3 and a CSE7766 for energy monitoring.

– power button on the side
– no idea what capacitor they use, or how long they will last
– Aust Certification not mentioned
– $11.96 special price is probably US$ + postage, so more than the Aus$15 for Arlec
– would prefer Zigbee over wi-fi
++ already have ESPHome installed, but that’s easy with Arlec and cloudcutter anyway

I will give their “special promotion” a miss.

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Looks like approval went through this week, including the Gen3: ERAC National Certification Database - SAA231948

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Their forum was littered with failure/ reliability complaints with earlier versions so they’ve had more than enough time to try to address issues.

I’d like to hope that since they are targeting the DIY crowd they are working on quality aspects and not just (the admittedly attractive) price point.

Their marketing is basically “intentionally deceptive” on the certification front IMO. A lot of people don’t realise they’re buying an uncertified product (since they even ship from AU).

The Arlecs have better form factor and price + certification. Similar crap-factor risks IMO. So Arlec wins ATM for me.

Not really HA related
But I’m on the hunt for some double GPO’s which have PD usb-c charging for phones/laptops etc (non smart GPO’s)

I have found these which are 30w (unsure about Oz certification), but wondering if anyone has found anything else (with higher wattage)
White Double Pole Double GPO Power Point Socket w/ 2 x USB C PD30W (auselectronicsdirect.com.au)

Hopefully this is still useful, been a while since I check back here… :smiley:

Here’s the GPIO mapping I’ve used:

I did manage to flash the module in-place without removing any of the components, had to get creative with some wires and soldering iron however:


Recommend me air con brands / models?

I’m in very early stages of contemplating upgrading my 2-bedroom apartments AC system (about 13 years old and there’s only a head unit in the living room and the master bedroom can get hot in summer).

I just learnt that Multi Head Split Systems are a thing and seem like a good fit since I want multi room heating / cooling and want a small footprint of the outdoor unit (pretty small balcony).

Can anyone offer any tips / recommendations in terms of reliable and value for money brands or models that might fit the bill and of course enable all of our HA hopes and dreams (local control etc)?

Did a quick forum search but it didn’t show up much so I thought I’d try harrassing you all here;) Thank you!

Edit: Good things about Daikin are popping up a bit? Maybe this one.

My recommendation is to ignore the “smarts” side of things and get the most energy efficient, reliable model you can. For me at the time it was Mitsubishi Heavy Industries splits. To make them smart, I grabbed a Broadlink IR blaster, installed the SmartIR custom component (which turns a climate entity into discrete IR commands to send to a blaster), added a contact sensor to the vanes to act as a “power” indicator and was done. Have been very happy with the result for a few years now.

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I went with a 12kW single phase ducted Daikin system. Works well with HA. No individual room control though (other than manual room vent louvres).

FDYA100AV1 DAIKIN 12.5kW INVERTER DUCTED HEAT/COOL SYSTEM - INDOOR UNIT
RZAS100CV1 DAIKIN - 12.5kW INVERTER DUCTED HEAT/COOL SYSTEM - OUTDOOR UNIT (R32)
BRC1E63 DAIKIN WIRED WALL CONTROLLER
BRP15B61 Airbase Wi-Fi remote control interface

Apologies for the shouty text. Copied from the invoice.

Also a Zena split for downstairs. It comes with a wifi adaptor that works out of the box with HA.

There are a couple of minor quirks, no show stoppers though:

This is mostly resolved, the High, Low, Auto fan modes are listed in the select now but so are the other not relevant modes: Daikin BRP15B61 incorrect fan modes · Issue #52344 · home-assistant/core · GitHub

This slows sttart up slightly and will eventually be resolved: Dakin integration does blocking I/O in the event loop to import modules and ssl certificates · Issue #114345 · home-assistant/core · GitHub

I see these warnings occasionally but it does not affect operation: Update of sensor is taking over 10 seconds · Issue #115582 · home-assistant/core · GitHub

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Thanks. I was kind of thinking this too. That’s my current set up. Although I wasn’t sure how well inverters play with “semi-smart control”.

Thanks. I’m tending towards Daikin at this point.

The Daikin Airbase is probably different to the multi-split wifi systems, and I think most new Daikin splits have gone cloud control only unlike the older Daikin or ducted systems.

I have a Daikin Airbase, and wrote a custom appdaemon app so I can have automated zone control (although limited to opening or closing a zone based on localised temperature). It works as intended, but obviously a little more work that something like an izone system.

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Thanks. My zone/room control needs will be about as simple as they get. It’s basically cool/heat the living room during the day and the master bedroom at night…

I wasn’t sure about the local control state of things. Will do some more research.

Only in Europe. It has not affected Australia.

Some systems have a separate zone controller from the actual A/C control. You can even get really cheap and basic ones that simply use switches to directly control the electric dampers. The great thing about those is that you can easily wire the dampers to an ESP based relay setup and still have buttons (as inputs to the ESP) to provide wall control in place of the original switches. I don’t think too many companies go for this anymore though because they mainly like to push their fancy wall mounted tablets etc.

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