HassOS 3 released! Raspberry Pi 4 support

[Literoya (Roya)]

Happy holidays

Thanks for the holiday gift!

[flamingm0e]

@system

We want to emphasize that running Hass.io as a virtual machine is the only supported method to run Hass.io on a virtualized system. We’ve lately seen some funky tutorials on how to run Hass.io inside a container like Docker or LXC, which we DO NOT recommend, you will end up having issues.

So this method is not supported any longer, since it’s running HassIO in docker?

Installation

[escoand]

@flamingm0e you’re talking about Hass.io, but the news about HassOS.

[flamingm0e]

@escoand

but the news about HassOS.

Perhaps you should re-read the paragraph I quoted.

[Idanit]

+1, VirtualizationStation on QNAP, Ubuntu as Host-OS. Also not supported? Cos it’s working as hell

[Domoticon]

Happy holidays 2UAll!

Still got the problem my RasPi 4 is getting really hot because the PoE-HAT ventilator is never running.

Raspberry Pi 4 on PoE-HAT: Getting hot and fan of PoE-HAT is never running

Hi2Uall, I have a running hass.io on my new Raspberry Pi 4 with PoE-HAT. The RPi is getting hot and the PoE-HAT ventilator is never running. I tested with Raspbian Buster and the ventilator is working as expected, so I guess the Hass.io is responsible for the flaw. System: Raspberry Pi 4 Model B - 4GB Hass.io System: HassOS 3.5, Deployment staging (64b) Hass.io supervisor: 189 (Home Assistant 0.99.3) Anyone got an idea how to solve this?

Please help!

[ebendl (Eben de Lange)]

Does the USB boot mode work with the “Special bootcode.bin-only boot mode” mentioned here?
https://www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/README.md

Edit: where you keep the SD card in the Pi with the latest bootcode.bin file?

[daranto]

Hello,
which image should I use for Proxmox / Libvirt (qcow2)? Unfortunately only the following hard disk files are available: vdi, vhdx, vmdk.

[frenck (Franck Nijhof)]

@flamingm0e

We want to emphasize that running Hass.io as a virtual machine is the only supported method to run Hass.io on a virtualized system. We’ve lately seen some funky tutorials on how to run Hass.io inside a container like Docker or LXC, which we DO NOT recommend, you will end up having issues.

So this method is not supported any longer, since it’s running HassIO in docker?

https://www.home-assistant.io/hassio/installation/#alternative-install-on-a-generic-linux-host

That method is still supported. Let me clarify a little.

The thing that keeps popping up, is running Hass.io + Docker + Home Assistant + the add-ons in a single (Docker or LXC) container. So it becomes a sort of Docker ecosystem running inside a single Docker container construction (Docker in Docker for short, a containerized system).

Running Hass.io on top of a Ubuntu Server + Docker (referred to as the Generic Linux installation) is supported and documented (Either bare metal or virtualized system).

[flamingm0e]

@frenck

The thing that keeps popping up, is running Hass.io + Docker + Home Assistant + the add-ons in a single (Docker or LXC) container. So it becomes a sort of Docker ecosystem running inside a single Docker container construction (Docker in Docker for short).

I’ve not seen this.

I have seen people running hassio in LXC, but not seen ANYBODY recommend docker inside of docker (that’s just stupid anyway). But the OP does not state it in a clear manner. It only muddies the waters, yet again, with the naming conventions.

@frenck

Running Hass.io on top of a Ubuntu Server + Docker (referred to as the Generic Linux installation) is supported and documented (Either bare metal or virtualized system).

Again, the OP does not reflect this, and since this is an official announcement, it’s only going to confuse people. A lot of people refer to the “Generic Linux Install” as HassIO in Docker.

[frenck (Franck Nijhof)]

@flamingm0e

A lot of people refer to the “Generic Linux Install” as HassIO in Docker.

There is no such thing as running Hass.io in Docker. We do not use and actively discourage that term all the time since it is confusing on many levels.

@flamingm0e

I have seen people running hassio in LXC

Yes, and they should not. Since Hass.io itself doesn’t support LXC, so it must be a Docker ecosystem running inside the LXC (since LXC and Docker are both containerized, it became the container inside a container construction). We had a lot of issues created, because of that setup.

@flamingm0e

But the OP does not state it in a clear manner.

Will adjust that, since this is the second platform I’ve got feedback on that.

[KzrgtKHEYfwo8WfstP9V]

Hi, for all of You update work smoothly?

i get an error in log
Can’t fetch versions from https://github.com/home-assistant/hassos/releases/download/3.7/hassos_rpi4-3.7.raucb:

I tried download just file from url
https://github.com/home-assistant/hassos/releases/download/3.7/hassos_rpi4-3.7.raucb

no success

[flamingm0e]

@frenck

There is no such thing as running Hass.io in Docker.

I understand, but you have to realize the audience that we are dealing with are jumping in on this not understanding how any of the technology works. It is very commonly referred to as running HassIO in Docker. Correcting them merely creates conflict…

@frenck

Yes, and they should not.

Totally agree.

@frenck

Will adjust that, since this is the second platform I’ve got feedback on that.

Thank you.

[frenck (Franck Nijhof)]

Hmm interesting.

@KzrgtKHEYfwo8WfstP9V

I tried download just file from url
https://github.com/home-assistant/hassos/releases/download/3.7/hassos_rpi4-3.7.raucb

no success

That URL works on my end? I’ve just downloaded it with my browser. So if I understand correctly, you are unable to download that file on your regular computer as well?

[frenck (Franck Nijhof)]

@flamingm0e

I understand, but you have to realize the audience that we are dealing with are jumping in on this not understanding how any of the technology works. It is very commonly referred to as running HassIO in Docker. Correcting them merely creates conflict…

We never gave in to that, and will not give in to that, because it is technically wrong and incorrect. Accepting that term will cause more damage in the long run. That statement is not a brand name or term, it is just factly wrong. There is no where we can go with that.

[KzrgtKHEYfwo8WfstP9V]

@frenck
Hi, Yes, tried via

1. update button
2. command line

and error as mentioned earlier

3rd option I planned to downolad file from link and update via usb, but not able to finish download on PC browser

[KzrgtKHEYfwo8WfstP9V]

ok, after few attempts finally I was able to download file and update via usb

by, update button, | was no able to upgrade

[frenck (Franck Nijhof)]

@KzrgtKHEYfwo8WfstP9V

ok, after few attempts finally I was able to download file and update via usb

I’ve tried to download the file from GitHub from multiple locations multiple times, and all succeeded. I’m sorry, I cannot think of anything that might have caused your issue. However, I’m happy you managed to punch through.

[Mutt (Muttley)]

Thanks for this (personally and for many others looking for a halfway house before a NUC)
I have a hub on order (for z wave stick) and when it arrives I’ll be doing this !

Given the rpi3 boot from usb, would I be right in assuming that an rpi4 update will be coming shortly ? (6 to 12 months ?)

Thanks again for all the great work
I will be toasting ALL the devs and other contributors tonight

Edit: This is NOT going to happen quickly, it is dependent upon many things, not all under HA control, see kanga_who’s post below for the detail.

[Mariusthvdb (Marius)]

@Mutt

an rpi4 update will be coming shortly ? (6 to 12 months ?)

haha, yes, that 'd be cool! finally being able to do so (SSD/RPI4) #fingerscrossed…