They probably have concerns about availability. This company hasn’t really had a consumer product readily available since before the lockdowns. As it is there’s already Pi5 listings on ebay for more than double the price and the product hasn’t even shipped yet. If they had just let all their stock sell at once most of that would probably go to scalpers.
There was a lot made about scalpers but the problem was near all stock was allocated to commercial channels.
They put into place maximum order qty’s to stock the scalpers and those have been retained.
You are still going to get Raspberry fanboys, but I am not going make excuses for a company like Raspberry as still salty at they way they treated there initial maker market.
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The above was the main story as lockdown and covid had affect but for most parts convienient scapegoats, as you will see after buying many Pi products I am still very salty.
The lack of maker stock and the effect it had on projects / repos that didn’t buy direct was dramatic, but also much what Upton seemed to say was BS.
So you will just get an endless argument that a company such as Raspberry should be able to release product as any other can, they have chosen an early release, rather than ‘Not in 2023’.
I have one on pre-order and as above Raspberry Pi 5 - #69 by stuartiannaylor I think the rk3588(s) boards are better.
The ‘home-assistant green’ shows you don’t need a Pi5 to run Home Assistant Green - Home Assistant or the Yellow with a CM4 or even ￡21.74 Orange Pi Zero 3 4GB, could do the job.
The Pi5 will be used as its only £5 more than a Pi4 and I think maybe Nabu-Casa missed a trick here as the RK3568 with Pcie3.0x2 and that 5 port sata M.2 are only £20 could of really offered a difference as a ‘Home Server’ the bigger RK3588 versions of Pcie3.0x4 but the 5 port m.2 sata adapter is x2 lanes Pcie3.0 anyway.
I like the idea of a Home Assistant ‘Merch store’ though a one-time to Sponsor @balloob on GitHub Sponsors · GitHub is prob my pref though.
Maybe they should just do a ‘Home Assistant’ vinyl’s/stickers and maybe ‘Hardware recipes’ should also become a thing?
If I could get a ‘flatpack acrylic home server case’ and builders kit then for me a RK3588 is a much better choice than a Pi5. Its just a 12vto5v buck (not needed with Radxa Rock5B) and some cabling and some SSD’s 
Having a SBC satifies that builders itch that is very easy to make a ‘finnished’ product but I am already waiting for the next-gen ‘Cortex-X’ with maybe 2-3x RK3588 performance for low latency LLMs and speech pipelines.
So without being salty the Pi5 is OK, but likely would not be my choice of a ‘Home Server’ that ‘Home Assistant’ would be a core part of.
I think the Orange Pi 5 of similar cost is much better than a pi5, but for a home server via OKDO (RS) the Radxa Rock5B with 2.5gbe and 5 port sata is far more interesting.
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I never noticed that is a 6 port by asmedia not the 5 port JMB ones.
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I like my Pi’s, from the first version till well the Pi400, for the Pi4 was way too expensive and not obtainable!
Guess the reputation of the Pi4 as one you could not get, crashed the reputation of the Raspberries. So many single boards came out, more capable, more versatile and above all way cheaper. The Pi4 broke the bank simple 4Gb sold for 130 euro. And that hurts, see the adds say 4G pi5 $40 8G pi5 $70 that is not true, in Europe you pay way more, I guess start with near a 100 euro for the 4 and 130 for the 8G, and then they prize themselves out of the market. Too many better SBC nowadays. Shame I like my Pi’s.
Just make sure you buy from authorized resellers, who do not price gouge when the supply is low. The availability of Raspberry Pi boards has improved dramatically over the past month or so. Still not super easy to find, but definitely improving.
Here is an example of an RPi 4B 8GB RAM
and the PI 400
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In the US, they show prices without sales-tax. In the EU, if selling to consumers, they have to show the price VAT included. According to the country, VAT adds easily 20% or more to the price.
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After Brexit we get clobbered with tax so the
Orange Pi5 4GB RAM RK3588S ￡58.52 delivered ￡80.36, but think maybe the EU is still the same for single imports under €100 and exempt?
Even then if I want to make and also get great support then I am prepared to pay £157.14 OKdo ROCK 5 Model B 8GB Single Board Computer Rockchip RK3588 Arm Cortex-A76 + Cortex-A55 - OKdo and deal with OKDO because it makes a great home server.
The Pi5 is still a great low-cost desktop board but even then think I have preference to the Opi5 due to its much faster ML perf/efficiency.
I want a ‘Home-server’ though and Pi5 just doesnt compete with the ability to simply add a m.2 5/6 port sata to make a extremely capable NAS/Media server that also will be ‘Home Assistant’
£157.14 is very cost effective considering a £20 m.2 sata can make a x6 Sata 3.0 storage device which if you check x6 bay NAS such as https://www.amazon.co.uk/ASUSTOR-Lockerstor-Gen-AS6706T-Bay/dp/B09VX449JG you can be paying £819.00 and still needing the Pi5.
The 2.5gbe + 5/6 sata just fills that ‘Home Server’ niche so perfectly and moves up to consumer/prosumer levels whilst the Pi5 remains a hacky/hobbyist solution for that intended use.
If anyone is interested started this thead £36.2 to start hooking it up.
Hi did anyone install HAOS to new RPI5?
How should that work @GoldFish when there is no HaOS available for the RPI5? 
Beside not even released yet the Raspberry Pi 5 has a quite bad performance/buck ratio and even a year old SBC’s with a RK35588 outperforms it easily 
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You could try and build it operating-system/scripts/update-kernel-rpi.sh at ff0a4b44e07de5a9f6129062bb37aee93a478717 · home-assistant/operating-system · GitHub
From Getting Started with Home Assistant Operating System Development | Home Assistant Developer Docs
But the to install is just a Docker container Raspberry Pi - Home Assistant
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Hmmm… So even we cannot install on docker manner. sorry, i’m a newbie for HA.
The Raspberry Pi 5 will most certainly be supported by the Home Assistant Team. It was just announced last week, and has not yet shipped to the general public. Thus, patience is in order here. Give it a few months, and I would guess we’ll see native HAOS support for the new RPi 5.
Data collected from installed and running instances of Home Assistant indicates the Raspberry Pi family is the most popular platform.
More data available at
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The only great answer to this is - get one and try it. Without the device, it’s really impossible to know. It’s about the software implementation as much as the hardware one too. The decoder might be there but if ffmpeg isn’t coded to take advantage of it, or HA does not use the decoder, then it might struggle. You can always return the Pi to the retailer if it doesn’t function… I’m sure they will take it back, what with shortages and all! Please report your findings if you can.
Is there a HomeAssisst test image for the Pi5 so I can test and see what and does not work on it
Pi5 8GB version just sat here waiting for testing.
No. HaOS is not available yet for the Pi5 (No Orange or Raspberry) 
But feel free to choose any of the other 3 installation methods to get HA up & running on your device 
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Oh well, thought I’d ask before I go hit GitHub and try get it working on the Pi5.
Hopefully theirs been some alpha (Pi) tester giving it a go already.
Its same as Pi5 you don’t need a HAOS image. Just follow one of the many guides avail to install on many OS.
I have put ubuntu as I think Releases · Joshua-Riek/ubuntu-rockchip · GitHub is producing some of the best images (very clean, up to date)
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any news about RPi 5?
About what in detail @lukasM? About the inefficiency?
Latest HaOS image was also build for that “hot” SBC if you check the githubs…
I like analytics data 
The map is interesting btw, but would be better if per 100,000 population.
I take my home country, Belgium: 6355 / 11,000,000 = 58 / 100,000 population
In the US, that seems to be the most : 53070 / 340,000,000 = 15 / 100,000 population
I know you’re not the one that produced the content of that page, I’m just saying.
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