Scenes not properly saving color state

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Sometime last night my scenes all stopped working correctly. I didn’t make any updates at this time, so not sure why it suddenly changed.

The issue is that my Scenes no longer correctly apply color. Activating a scene will update the brightness of the bulbs, but the color will remain whatever the lights are currently on. The color does not seem to be properly saved. Here is a quick video demonstrating the issue.

More info: I’m on the latest HAOS 2024.7.3 version. I have Philips Hue bulbs integrated via a Hue Bridge through the official Philips Hue integration.

Here’s what I see in scenes.yaml

- id: '1700846239887'
  name: Master Bedroom Daylight Scene
  entities:
    light.master_bedroom_ceiling:
      min_color_temp_kelvin: 2000
      max_color_temp_kelvin: 6535
      min_mireds: 153
      max_mireds: 500
      effect_list:
      - None
      - candle
      - fire
      - glisten
      - opal
      - prism
      - sparkle
      - sunrise
      - unknown
      supported_color_modes:
      - color_temp
      - xy
      effect: None
      color_mode: color_temp
      brightness: 255
      color_temp_kelvin: 2732
      color_temp: 366
      hs_color:
      - 28.327
      - 64.71
      rgb_color:
      - 255
      - 167
      - 89
      xy_color:
      - 0.524
      - 0.387
      entity_id:
      - light.master_bedroom_1
      - light.master_bedroom_2
      - light.master_bedroom_3
      - light.master_bedroom_4
      icon: mdi:ceiling-fan-light
      friendly_name: Master Bedroom Ceiling Lights
      supported_features: 44
      state: 'on'
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Exact same here. The lights change color when adjusted manually so it must be something specific to the way scenes work. Latest hue bridge firmware 1.65.1965111030 was July 18 so I don’t think that triggered it.

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Looks like there’s an issue opened on GitHub here:

The workaround is to edit scenes.yaml to remove the line:

effect: None

However, any time you make an edit, the line will reappear.

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Just adding another person to the mix in this. I am also having the same issue but only with Certain Hue products.

Don’t have my FIDO key nearby to add a comment on github.

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Interesting - I couldn’t find this post earlier so I posted:

I believe it’s the same issue as what’s addressed here.

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Hmm, I went ahead and tried the workaround listed (all in one shot, see below) and the effect: None lines were successfully removed, but it didn’t change any of the behavior for me unfortunately.

Using the terminal:

cd config
cp scenes.yaml scenes.yaml.backup
sed -e s/"effect: None"//g -i scenes.yaml
grep "effect: None" scenes.yaml
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Can confirm that manually removing

effect: None

from scenes.yaml and then reloading the scenes through Developer Tools works, provided I don’t edit a scene.

This is not a great workaround for people who didn’t install Studio Code.

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It doesn’t seem like this bug is a big deal to most people - are people just not using scenes much?

Just curious. It’s such a big bug for me that I’m spending a big part of my time converting (rewriting) my scenes into scripts that set the RGB + brightness values for my lamps, and then updating the automations that call these scripts instead of activating scenes.

Works great, is reliable, but is a bit unfortunate since I have to manually copy RGB values from either the developer’s console after activating a scene, or from the scenes.yaml file itself.

Thinking about writing a python parser to convert the scenes into script automagically but not quite sure yet.

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Can also confirm that finding all effect: None elements in scenes.yaml and replacing with an empty string fixed the scenes not changing my bulbs’ colours.
I was able to use the File Editor addon rather than opening in Studio Code as well. Simple enough fix, but finding this thread wasn’t easy.

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In the github thread it seems like hue bridge update caused it. I think that’s true, because my HA version is still 2024.3 and i haven’t updated anything manually. The issue is that my scenes are dynamic and created on the fly and i didn’t find any information how to unset the “effects” with such method. I guess i’ll have to monitor what’s the solution with the hue hub will be…

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I have this issue too. I’m all up-to-date. I’ll have to try editing this effect thing mentioned. I’m also using a hue bridge though as someone else mentioned. I didn’t think it was because of that though as the colours actually recorded in my scenes seem to get changed as well.

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I tried the effects: none removal workaround, and it didn’t work.

I save the scene with all the light colors, then open scenes.yaml with the File Editor, and replace all instances of “effects: none” with a blank line.

Go back to the scenes window, and activate a different scene, and then activate the scene I had just saved, and none of the colors are set correctly.

Maybe I’m not doing it right?

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You may need to restart home assistant after editing the scenes.yaml. It seemed to not work for me sometimes if I didn’t restart. Just double check scenes.yaml after restarting that the changes were saved.

Also, keep in mind that anytime you edit the scene in the UI, it will automatically re-add the effects: None line and you’ll have to remove it again. So avoid using the scenes editor after applying the fix.

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Revisiting this thread out of curiosity - doesn’t this seem like a bug? Does anyone know how to report it so the devs know about it?

I myself moved away from scenes to only scripts and it’s working great for me. I don’t anticipate the scripting engine breaking anytime soon so I think I’ll be OK with doing things this way.

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It’s been reported as a bug, but I haven’t seen a response by the devs so far.

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I’m having this exact same problem as well

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Adding one more to the mix. I also added a comment on github. I’ll attempt removing the effect line now.

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I’m having the same issue. I’m creating a scene within an automation, to restore the light setting before the automation was applied. It doesn’t work whatever I tried, just as you described here. One thing is, that the brightness seems to be adjusted but nothing more, the color is not changing. Can Home Assistant developers do anything?

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I am experiencing the same with a meross light strip. does not save settings. I am just trying to create a simple on scene and off scene. No dice.

new to home assistant. wishing I hadn’t left HomeKit now! I thought this was meant to be an upgrade.

Please fix soon, HomeAssistant gurus.

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If you use the file editor in home assistant. Just search for any “effect:” instances. Delete the whole line, save and restart home assistant. I think you can just remove the “None” part from what people have said but I just deleted the whole line.

I’m not sure if here is something wrong with the search though in file editor as I did this once but somehow a few effects ended up back in there. Had to do it again. Although, I expect I did something wrong.