Just checked my logs but I have no such trouble for both 2024.4.0 and 2024.4.1 so that is weird. Are you sure that is it?
I do not understand your timer idle condition though. Why would you check for whatever state you thiink the timer has after a timer finishes? You already know it just finised. If you think it might have started again you would most likely not catch it here anyway.
This issue also appeared for me in 2024.4.0 across all automations that are triggered by timer.finished. The automations work fine when i revert back to 2024.3.3.
From what I can tell, when the timer.finished event is fired, the timer’s state is still active.
Automation:
- id: '1648808546330'
alias: Toilet Timer End
description: ''
trigger:
- platform: event
event_type: timer.finished
event_data:
entity_id: timer.toilet
- platform: state
entity_id:
- binary_sensor.toilet
to: 'off'
from: 'on'
for:
hours: 0
minutes: 0
seconds: 10
condition:
- condition: and
conditions:
- condition: state
entity_id: binary_sensor.toilet
state: 'off'
- condition: state
entity_id: timer.toilet
state: idle
action:
- service: switch.turn_off
data: {}
target:
entity_id: switch.toilet
mode: single
The purpose of the idle check was to deal with the scenario where a restore mode timer might expire while homeassistant is not running. As the timer.finished event does not fire on restart the automation is launched by the homeassistant.start event. The timer state is reset to idle during startup before the homeassistant.start event if the timer expired.
Important: The timer state needs to be checked at startup - otherwise it won’t trigger. I guess it restores the timer after startup but doesn’t trigger if the timer finishes while HA is offline.
So idk if this is a new issue but I am currently having issues with the timer.finished event. It doesn’t trigger. Ever. It just doesn’t work. I’m fairly certain it’s like malfunctioning. Also real question
Why is the timer event only available via an event? And not through a regular GUI type thingy?
I’m not entirely sure what I need to do for this to work. Traces doesn’t show anything on the automations. I’m pretty sure that either the code for a trigger I used is wrong or something is wrong with home assistant itself because I just reinstalled everything from scratch and set it all back up to ensure I didn’t have any issues
(my backups were reaching over 8gb which was unacceptable.)
It’s very hard to follow screenshots. Perhaps export the YAML and paste it correctly formatted.
How are you starting the timer and are you running it until normal completion? Can you show the state history for the timer?
I’m not sure what you mean by “thingy”, but if you’re asking why it isn’t a state, then it’s because this really is an event. It’s when the timer goes from active to idle. Those last two are the timer’s states, but it doesn’t tell you how it got there — it could’ve been cancelled or finished normally. But if you don’t care about that, you could have a state trigger and use “idle” as the state.
Lol ya I thought a funnier name would Garner a faster response because people will be like “lol butt stuff and threesomes”. Seems to have worked idk. Random sex related expletives tend to be fairly attentive grabbing I think.
The rationale does’t help the case, I can imagine a whole lot of people who weren’t already ignoring you for the crude name itself will now permanently ignore you for the reason you chose it.
