Synology - ConBee - deconz

Hi
Lately I got a Synology DS220+ where I installed Docker for running Home Assistant. Until now I have added varies devices but after I bought a Aqara product because I saw it was easy to ad, but - here I misunderstood something. I therefore bought a ConBee2 so I could add the Aqara through here.

Now it seems that I’m f-up because it is not possible to install the ConBee2/peconz.
First I cannot install ConBee2/peconz because I do not have the Supervisor or the hass.io container so I can install add-ons. I have tried to install ConBee2/peconz otherwise and have a Container but I can not use it.

After a while I did see that version 7 of the Synology software could not use the ConBee2/USB. I did find the following page “Synology: How to Add USB Support on DSM 7 – Marius Hosting” and followed the instruction here. Unfortunately I cannot see if it has been done correctly.

OK, then I tried to run the Docker in the Virtual Machine Manager, BUT here I also ran in to troubles :frowning:, “No Btrfs-stock available” and I’m not able to create a Btrfs-stock.

So – have I used a lot of money for northing. Is my Synology/Home Assistant not able to use a ConBee2/peconz or can someone help me to be lucky so I can use the ConBee2/peconz?

It is a lot of text but you are not explaining what is not working or what you expect
Search the forum and you will find quite a few happy syno users. Deconz is not a must so not sure why you want this.

I think he ment that:
A conbee stick requires deconz, which does require a physical usb port (tcp2ser is not supported)

That was for me the reason i had to move from HyperV to VMware (as my cc2531 broke down and replaced it for a conbee, which left me in a similar situation)

Why does it require deconz? I run perfectly with z2m and see a lot of others on ZHA
Or is this ‘just’ for the update firmware?

conbee requires deconz, at least it does with zigbee2mqtt…

Nope… I have no deconz and a conbee II… I used deconz on a laptop to update the firmware of the stick but that is all

but are you also running ser2tcp??

So… not to start mixing up 2 things… my nuc (not syno) runs HA docker + z2m + conbee II…no deconz
I see multiple users on syno with z2m and conbee II
To be 100% honest, I donot know if syno + conbee II and HA require deconz to circumvent the USB issue but deconz itself is not needed

And no, I donot user ser2tcp

EDIT: here is a link on how to add the stick to syno…no deconz too (same as OP sent)
Synology: How to Add USB Support on DSM 7 – Marius Hosting

@Elkiaer do read the notes here too… if you absolutely want deconz (see discussion above) then there is a new containt
deconz-community/deconz-docker (github.com)

i thought because it cannot use usb, and requires ser2tcp…my mistake :thinking:

Donot think it does, z2m zha etc. go straight to the stick but in some (!) cases you may need ser2ip/tcp…e.g. I have my rfxcom on another machine and then I user ser2ip to manage it.

@Elkiaer if you have setup docker to run on ‘host’ and you followed the instructions of Mario then you should be able to use ZHA and connect to the stick…without deconz. Now I myself am z2m as it covers more (for the moment)
When you add ZHA it should show you the stick(s)
image

Why not use Virtual Machine Manager and install supervised version of HA from OVA on Synology? Bonus is that you can pass-through any USB device, as drivers are required on guest OS level, not DSM (which does not support Conbee).

Yep…that is an idea too… I am OK with docker and like that more than HAOS…subjective a bit :slight_smile:

Thanks for all the input

I am new in using HA, have used it for 1½ month, so what is best to use, deconz, z2m or ZHA I do not know.

Right now deconz is not a opportunity because there is no USB driver for it, I had try following the guidance on webpage “Synology: How to Add USB Support on DSM 7 – Marius Hosting” with no luck, the right drives is not made.

So, what to use z2m or ZHA?

What is the easiest to setup with good guidance? And can I run it through Docker on my Synology?

vingerha you mention that you use z2m and you know many others use ZHA. Before I did try deconz I saw that ZHA was an alternative.

Can you help me a little bit here :blush:

Sorry for the late input, but I was to a football game yesterday and had 6 washing machines with football clothing after wood; we did win so it was not that hard :blush:

Here is my Hardware taken from the Synology; here you can also see my ConBee2.

I prefer Z2M as it supports wider but ZHA will grow too.
My first suggestion is to make sure that you can connect to a zigbee device with your dongle

Option 1: make sure that your container works, it SHOULD work if you followed the instructions to the letter.
Can you confirm that your container is on ‘host’ ?


If so, when in HA > Settings > Devices > add the ZHA integration and try to add the conbee adapter either with /dev/ttyACM0 or /dev/ttyUSB0 … I am not sure where your plug is

Note that along the instructions…each restart requires re-doing some of the steps. My NAS hardly restarts (only with firmware upgrades)

Option 2:
So you could setup HAOS via the VMM setup, this would avoid toying around with containers yourselves (in HAOS these are called addons) and would bring the drivers into the vmm and that should work along @mirekmal
You can leave all containers as - is for now
Follow this one for the setup
Installation on Synology Virtual Machine Managager - Community Guides - Home Assistant Community (home-assistant.io)
Note that the startup after install may take 10+ minutes (depends on HW) so be patient if it does not show immediately

Just noticed your HW specs…memory is a bit thin with 2…it will work but not with a lot of stuff next to it so you should consider adding 4 or more but that is for later

And now waiting for your feedback… hereby another similar issue with the setup that you may follow
Help with install conbee2 on HA docker synology ds220+ - Configuration - Home Assistant Community (home-assistant.io)

Hi vingerha

As I can see my container is not on Host. So, I stop already here.

I prefer option 1, as it has not been possible to me to work with Home Assistant Supervised/Add-ons.
I guess that the container solution is more a standard Docker way to do it.

Your screenshot does not show the Netvaerk tab so I have to take your word for it
But do verify and/or change your container to host…not just for this one, also for detecting other devices
EDIT: not sure if you know how to do this but if indeed not on ‘host’, then your need

  1. remove the old container
  2. re-launch from the image which would allow you to set as below…and re-apply the other settings as volume, etc.

SORRY did not see you guidens correct.

If I delete the container, will I then lose all the work with devices I already have set up?

I found this YouTube video “Living without add-ons on Home Assistant Container - YouTube “6:40 to 8:52”and it looks so easy as he informs, but when he has a Linux computer with different directories its not easy :frowning: