Tado integration - Add Support for tado X devices

Hi there,

I am using the tado integration a while.

Now tado has announced the new product line tado X connected via Matter over Thread. As a product tester, I already own the new radiator thermostat and the room thermostat. Yesterday I activated one of the smart radiator thermostats, but unfortunately it is not shown in the tado integration.

Connecting the thermostat via Matter is very limited, as the auto-mode for example is not usable. The device is identified as VA04, and also shown via the web app, but is not included in the new tado account, I have connected to Home Assistant.

Would it be possible to include those new devices into the tado integration? As soon as I have activated the smart room thermostat X, I could add the Hardware ID for it. If you need someone for testing with the new devices, I would of course like to help to integrate those new devices.

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Best regards
Alex

Hi Alex,

have you an Update on this?

I just started with Tado X.

BR,
Matthias

Unfortunately not.
The only possibility to connect those thermostats to HA is using Matter over Thread with very limited capability.

For that there is this thread: Using tado° Smart Thermostat X through Matter

Just bought X devices as well, would like to see support too :pray:

Opened a PR for this: Tado Integration lacking support for Tado X devices · Issue #128373 · home-assistant/core · GitHub

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Hello together, it would be great if new Tado X thermostats could be implemented. I bought a Home Assistant becaue of Philips Hue and Tado X Thermostats just to find out, these are not available/supported. :frowning:

I am also chipping in for Tado X support. Just bought my first thermostat and for now unable to integrate it with Home Assistant

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I am just starting out with Tado X, and Home Assistant as well. While the Tado integration does not show me any individual thermostats (which are available via Matter), it does show the main “Tado” device with the global variables for my Tado account, including home/away.

My main use case would be to set the Tado account to home/away without having to use their Auto Assist feature. While this stops short of full integration of all the Tado X features, it would be a great start.

I noticed that apparently with the old Tado thermostats (V2/V3/V3+), you could manipulate them using the services climate.set_preset_mode (to set home/away in the Tado world) and climate.set_hvac_mode (to set an individual thermostat to manual/schedule). While home/away is a global variable for Tado, climate.set_preset_mode apparently works on a per thermostat basis in HA. Since my Tado X thermostats do not show up and I thus have no thermostats to use this service on, this doesn’t work.

Maybe changing how the Tado integration handles the home/away mode would already provide a lot of benefit here, without being too much effort.

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I recently purchased a set of latest generation tado valves, the Tado X. Unfortunately I saw that the official integration (cloud) does not offer any control of them, while the only possibility is to manage them via Matter integration which however does not offer all the controls provided by the app. In particular, the thing that is missing most is the ability to set the “away” mode; at the moment it is only possible to set the “heating” or “off” mode which however sets the valves to the anti-freeze temperature (5 degrees). We hope that this feature can be implemented as soon as possible. Thank you.

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+1 on this. My new X devices are arriving soon, and it would be great to automate with them like with the V3+ products

Hi everyone, the support for tado X radiator thermostats (and untested room thermostats) is now implemented. There is a pull request in the upstream library that currently waits to be merged: https://github.com/wmalgadey/PyTado/pull/86

The relevant pull request in the HA core repo (blocked by the upstream pr): https://github.com/home-assistant/core/pull/129600

Hopefully, the upstream pr will be merged shortly, so we can roll this out in HA.

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So cool @dmho!! Thanks for the contribution! :smiley:

Great news and thanks a lot. I just installed my system that also includes a Smart Thermostat X. I can help you get the details to also make the required changes to support it? FYI I have not yet tinkered with the updated API…

tado X support will be in HA 2024.12 :wink:

Based on what? It’s not in the beta release notes 2024.12: Beta release notes - Home Assistant

And there’s this discussion going on: Support for TadoX thermostatic radiator valves by Moritz-Schmidt · Pull Request #129600 · home-assistant/core · GitHub

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Unfortunately, it appears the PR to support tado x via the tado integration is closed and won’t be in 2024.12, also unfortunately the matter addition itself (aka local) seems to only expose very basic info/controls, which I’m not sure if it’s something that depends on the HA implementation, the TRV manufacturer one, or just the protocol not having those options

Does anyone know if the lack of control (e.g. choice of off/auto/heat mode through Matter) is due to an API limitation or because it’s just not yet implemented in Home Assistant? In other words, is there any chance of accessing these controls via Matter or the Cloud in the near future?

All I can tell you it was possible with the V3+ products, and I’m confident that once the Tado integration is updated that this will be possible again. Also I’m testing the latest Node-Red flow for Tado that should also be able to do this…

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look to the All Changes Site…

That’s the library, the integration uses.
The integration unfortunately did not get bumped.

Nope, and while I have some functionality from my Tado integration in 2024.11, it doesn’t load at all in 2024.12b4 :frowning: