I got the email and was wondering the same.
But I’d say you are probably better off with the Arlec if you want to go cheap. At least they are certified and (I think) they have fewer reported/confirmed issues.
Looking for some advice regarding automating my bathroom ceiling exhaust/light/heater. I have 4-gang switch plate with rocker switches for fan, light, heat lamps and set of downlights.
I’d like to replace just the fan switch with a smart option so I can automate (HomeAssistant) it to manage humidity.
Any reccomendations - preferably Zigbee, but WiFi ok ?
Clipsal Wiser switch runs my shower exhaust fan. I know they are a bit expensive but how committed to a smart home are you?
Works flawlessly in home assistant ZHA with Conbee II or via pressing the button.
What happens if the external humidity is greater than 60 or 40. Your fan will turn on and never turn off. Using power without any result. I do the same but the condition for the automation is the outside humidity is less.
I have just installed four Clipsal Wiser fan controllers on ZHA. Worked upfront and flawlessly just like the other wiser products I have installed.
I also bought four Wiser Smoke Alarms. Works with existing Clipsal wireless smoke alarms I installed downstairs when renovating down there and ZHA out of the box.
Yes Clipsal is dearer but the time I save pays for itself.
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The exhaust fan is set to run for an hour which its dropping to 60-65% and the dehumidifier runs until it drops under 40%, I also have both tied to turn off when I am in bed since I am using a water leak sensor with a pressure pad as my bed sensor set to 30s for being in or out of bed to disable or enable automation/lights as needed.
For the humidity sensor I am currently using a govee h5179 set to the fastest update interval to provide that data. I also have a good lot of the stuff now tied to my streamdeck xl on a dedicated page for manual control when I am at my PC.
Glad to hear it. I have a contractor writing up a Wiser quote for me.
Jason, are you referring to this: https://www.clipsal.com/products/smart-home-solutions/wiser-smart-home-solutions/connected-ac-fan-controller-zigbee-41ecsfwmz?tab-document-1=0&itemno=41ECSFWMZ-VW?
I run Z2M with SkyConnect dongle. Any info on whether it works or not with Z2M?
That is the one, I don’t use Z2M so can’t comment sorry
Clipsal Wiser for all three.
Yes swapped mine for Clipsal Wiser. More expensive but saves time on fixing the cheaper ones
I tried…
My fan is single speed (on/off) but the iconic is 3 speed. Are you using it with a multi-speed fan?
Hi Mark, I use a 2A wiser switch for the exhaust fan
The fan controllers are for my ceiling fans
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I’m about half way through my install now. Have a bunch of switches, dimmers and just recently added an AC fan controller.
I’ve tested these across ZHA and Z2MQTT and have now settled on Z2MQTT for better compatibility. Note that for the AC fan controller you need to be on the ‘edge’ version of Z2MQTT until the converter is merged, which should be any day now.
Z2MQTT creates entities for the wiser options like LED button behaviour and ballast controls for dimmers which ZHA didn’t last I looked. You could control these tediously through ZHA toolkit though.
Another thing noteworthy is that I see many online comments about poor tactile feedback from the buttons but actually solved this easily - it happens when the clipsal iconic plate is over tightened to the wall, which causes it to bend slightly, then the button face doesn’t site flat against the plate. My buttons feel heaps nicer after loosening the ones that didn’t feel clicky and responsive.
Oh - one last thing. I got a few form a local wholesaler at trade price and they had old zigbee firmware (problematic as I don’t have a wiser hub). I’ve since got all my units from sparkydirect for close to trade pricing but all of their units had much more recent firmware, probably due to higher stock turnover.
Oh one other -very- nice thing is that you can use binds in Z2MQTT to link the wiser button actions either one or both ways directly. As in, it will still work if HA or Z2MQTT is down with no perceivable delay.
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I installed one of these last week.
It works on Z2MQTT but you’ll need to switch to the edge version (super easy). until it’s merged in the base one, which should happen in next release early feb I’d say.
Only option that isn’t presented at the moment is the way the backlight fades out (useful for bedrooms). I managed to get mine set by configuring in BLE mode and switching to zigbee, but it likes to wipe the settings when you change modes.
see conversation here: [New device support]: Schneider Electric Wiser 40/300-Series Module AC Fan Controller · Issue #18620 · Koenkk/zigbee2mqtt · GitHub
Thanks for the tips. I use Z2M so that’s good to know.
I did hear that the Iconic face plates weren’t the best so I’m keeping my 2000 series faceplates and just replacing the mechanisms with push buttons. As they are mostly architrave plates I will have to use modules in junction boxes in the roof rather than the actual zigbee switch mechanisms.
Oh that’s a shame to lose the nice back button interactions that the zigbee mechs have. Also - there is A LOT of click and hold patterns for pairing, resetting etc. that coudl be very tedious without physical access to the mechs.
I really like the iconic face plates myself, they’re thin and the locking mechanism for mechs is much easier to use. Just don’t over tighten.
Giving that some thought, I would re-think either wiser or the placement in J boxes. If you need to use J boxes, you could save a tonne of money by using push buttons and something shelly-ish (zigbee equivalents?). Pretty sure iconic has architrave solutions but you’d need to carve out a pretty hefty space to fit any of the dimmer/10AX units.
That should still be possible using a remote push button and the Wiser modules.
I’ve looked. Wiser is the best option.
Not 4 switch versions.
fair enough.
Not sure how the remote solution you’re look at works but I’ve got a few control link mechs that connect in to the control terminal and they work fantastically for the 2-way behaviour etc. but they do not trigger hardware functions like pairing and reset. They also don’t trigger zigbee binded behaviours, so it’s not the same as remote access to the same momentary contact. You might have found a different way but just make sure you’ve got that sorted before investing so much.